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Rook
01-14-2008, 09:51 AM
The last time I was able to take part in a port battle was before open beta started. I know since then it has changed, but the question I pose to you is how? This will also help inform some of the pre-order new comers on what to expect if they happen to get a port battle invite.

The last I remember.
Invites are not asked for, it’s based off of contention you personally have caused around the targeted port. If you hunt Spanish ships around Havana, you will earn contention points. If and when the time comes for Havana to flip and the port battle begins, 25 invites will go out to the nation with the most contention points on that city. The invites from there are broken down into priority based on personal points. So, it is possible that if you nabbed a few fat merchantmen as you were casually passing by, you may get an invite. The invite can be declined and it will be passed on to another player. Invites for the defending nation work the same way I believe.

The battle itself will begin 20 minutes after invites. These 20 minutes is used for fleet planning and strategy. Yes, use strategy. Please don't resort to your WoW WSG experience and zerg the fort. It won't work here.

Everyone plays a part in a 25 vs. 25 battles, even the guy in Halifax and B. Sloop. Just because you have a small ship, or low level, doesn't mean you can't deal damage and harass the enemy. For the love of all that is holy, if you are sailing a small boy, do not sail in front of a larger ships main firing arc! Stay in between and behind taking shot as the become available and help protect the larger ships from attacks from other small ships. Once the battle line is in motion, it stays in motion and doesn't change direction unless it becomes unavoidable.

Now, everything after that I'm unclear on. I know changes were made where av-com was involved, but I remember it as obscenely unbalanced. Also durability loss was a topic too. What became of these two issues and is the above examples still pretty much the general idea?

ZaiRoX
01-14-2008, 09:20 PM
See of it this way. It takes 10.000 unrest points to schedule a port battle. Let's say that you have made 300 of those points. Then you have 300 of 10.000 lottery tickets to get into the port battle. That would mean that you have 3% chance to be elected to EACH of the 25 spots. Which should (unless I'm stupid) mean that you have a 75% chance to get invited.

The set amount of lottery tickets are unknowned I think, so I made that up but the princible is the same. If you single handedly earn 4% of the contention (or lottery tickets) you have a teoretic 100% chance to get into the port battle. Though in reality it can never get higher than 99%.

Atleat this is how I understood it, but please correct me If i'm wrong.

PekkaR
01-15-2008, 04:28 AM
I had thought that the 25 players with most contention points get invites if they're online, and others only if/when some of those first wave invites are declined or unanswered too long. Just based on other descriptions I had read, unfortunately I wasn't able to log in for the port battles in open beta.

S1an1de
01-15-2008, 08:36 AM
See of it this way. It takes 10.000 unrest points to schedule a port battle. Let's say that you have made 300 of those points. Then you have 300 of 10.000 lottery tickets to get into the port battle. That would mean that you have 3% chance to be elected to EACH of the 25 spots. Which should (unless I'm stupid) mean that you have a 75% chance to get invited.

The set amount of lottery tickets are unknowned I think, so I made that up but the princible is the same. If you single handedly earn 4% of the contention (or lottery tickets) you have a teoretic 100% chance to get into the port battle. Though in reality it can never get higher than 99%.

Atleat this is how I understood it, but please correct me If i'm wrong.

nope you would still have a 3% or 4% [depending which example you are looking at] chance to get invited to the port battle, the total number of slots available in that battle doesnt affect the % chance for you to get invited.

Using the lottery ticket analogy, 10000 lottery ticket variations are available, you buy 300 tickets and use the same number on all 300 tickets. Despite having 300 tickets you still have a 1 in 10K chance to win. Even if you buy 5000 tickets, all using the same number you still have a 1 in 10K chance to win.

Now if you use 300 different numbers on 300 tickets you have a 3% chance to win. If you use 300 different numbers on 5000 tickets, you still have a 3% chance to win.


Hope this is clearer

karkh
01-15-2008, 08:51 AM
http://www.burningsea.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42

Sticky at the top of this forum

AxilX
01-15-2008, 11:50 PM
you both loose at math. If you have 300 of 10,000 contention points your chances of getting in one of the 25 slots is 1-(9,700/10,000)^25 = 46.7% chance of being invited (rounded).

*edit* and in reality your chances are even higher because someone cannot win twice.... thus it is not a true lottery. For instance, if someone has 1000 tickets and is selected first, then you have 300/9000 tickets, with 24 picks left and your odds are much improved. Another problem is you can continue to gain contention after the port hits 10K, and you keep personal contention when it's reduced by the enemy... so the total amount of contention could be much much higher than 10K...

PedroAsani
01-16-2008, 06:26 AM
AxilX: first you LOSE at spelling. :)

Second, the formula for your chance is:


Chance percentage of invite = 1- [your personal contention points / total personal contention points]^25

The thing is that the Personal Contention Points you earn, are not earned in a 1:1 ratio with the Port Unrest Points. (Note the language used. Entering confusing territory.)

Port Contention has three stages. First, building Unrest. Second, building Conquest. Third, the battle.

During the first two stages, you can earn Personal Contention Points. And you can continue earning them until the Port battle. It is quite possible that the total Personal Contention Points will total more than 20,000.

Any expression used to state a percentage needs to limit the number of numbers. Also consider that if less than 26 people have built up PCP's, your chance for an invite is 100%