Playing to Crush?

[Mort Zeppelin]

..The Treacherous Spaniard is aiming to crush the Brits completely with their dastardly attack on TB? C'mon guys! Shouldn't the Brits be allowed to have big boats too? I'm shocked!

[Alastriona]

Why would the brits need big boats? to do more JOMT... I mean Orleans?

[Ragnara]

Spain got all butthurt because some Brits hit PoS.

[Slevin MacKnife]

Spain got all butthurt because some Brits hit PoS.

or maybe because we were able to flip spanish town without a single spanish group manning up to come and fight :/

[mud117]

Yes, because hitting a DNH will get you a fight... for 1 PB.

[brendonoid]

I won't give a second warning, but y'all know what thread this belongs in.

It starts with a Q...












































...and ends with a Q.

[Slevin MacKnife]

I won't give a second warning, but y'all know what thread this belongs in.

It starts with a Q...












































...and ends with a Q.

QfostersQ?

[Ruckuz]

I'm sure spain will cry when retaliation happens and then sabre rattle about how they will be day flipping.

[dominar34]

Hitting the DNH is pretty stunner....week 2 1/2 of the map....

[stokes234]

I'm sure spain will cry when retaliation happens and then sabre rattle about how they will be day flipping.
Oh sweet jesus. You're the first person to ever cry their way on to my ignore list.

[dominar34]

Oh sweet jesus. You're the first person to ever cry their way on to my ignore list.

RESISTANCE LEGION!


cheese?

[stokes234]

RESISTANCE LEGION!


cheese?

Hehe, I did enjoy you screaming about my resistance tanked discovery with zero resist mods yesterday.

[dominar34]

Hehe, I did enjoy you screaming about my resistance tanked discovery with zero resist mods yesterday.

I was tired, and i watched the fraps and i shot at evasion xD

shot my crushing at 240 yards on joo evasion

<3 Stokesy

[stokes234]

I was tired, and i watched the fraps and i shot at evasion xD

shot my crushing at 240 yards on joo evasion

<3 Stokesy

Ouch.

Apologies for the gank, it was more to see if we could really. Failfitted HMCs have always escaped me.

[Lux Aeterna]

..The Treacherous Spaniard is aiming to crush the Brits completely with their dastardly attack on TB? C'mon guys! Shouldn't the Brits be allowed to have big boats too? I'm shocked!

LOL I think I already expressed my opinion in the "Deer Spain" thread.

[stokes234]

In regards to this flip - it was done by the US players, and so it's primarily their business. Renegade Legion will have an internal discussion and then with the rest of spain as to whether we attend or not, and whether we actually take the port if we do attend and win. Would be good to hear from the brits whether they prefer a fight or not. DNH's are a bit OTT at this stage of the map, imo.

If we do boycott it, we would ask in exchange that you refrain from stacking flips vs us in US times in future though.

[Ruckuz]

I dont' believe the player base would want to stack flips at this point stokes. Most people are here for the good fights, the good action.

If its taken, as in previous maps on tiggy things will balance eachother out. Tiggy has a odd way of doing that.

[Saiyaku]

After we tried to help them at guanica the other night they stack a pb with the French flip while we were in a pb.


Maybe the brits will learn their lesson.

[jdf]

I dont' believe the player base would want to stack flips at this point stokes.

Think you're on his ignore list.

[jdf]

Would be good to hear from the brits whether they prefer a fight or not.

You said several times that Spain wasn't tight enough to avoid the big boats each time I mentioned that you've bundlezerged us in the past, yet you really think Britain has the ability to give you a national response to this question? The formal national councils are on Roberts.

[stokes234]

You said several times that Spain wasn't tight enough to avoid the big boats each time I mentioned that you've bundlezerged us in the past, yet you really think Britain has the ability to give you a national response to this question? The formal national councils are on Roberts.

No, but we could make a judgement based on the opinions of a few different socs.

[Saiyaku]

If we do boycott it, we would ask in exchange that you refrain from stacking flips vs us in US times in future though.

this wont happen.

[christhehate]

we fought a 6 group of brits, and none of the 3 no's used invinc or final d. No taking their DNH's. They seem to have a lot of newer players, which is awesome i hope they stay around but don't gonk their DNH's. They need them, we need them to have have them :)

[Saiyaku]

I like how france is QQing more than the brits. This is funny.

<3 Rags for taking the flip like a man.

[kentaggie]

I dont' believe the player base would want to stack flips at this point stokes. Most people are here for the good fights, the good action.

If its taken, as in previous maps on tiggy things will balance eachother out. Tiggy has a odd way of doing that.


I don't know for a fact but the stacking of Plata and ST may have contributed to the situation. I wasn't on but just a guess.

[Adam Hampton]

Well, it should certainly be an interesting PB, one way or the other...

[christhehate]

if you guys arn't careful france is gonna take over summerset again.

[Charissela d'Avonle]

I do not approve of hitting DNH's this early in a map.

Therefore, I will not help put any points on TB nor will I attend the PB.

Other Spanish can obviously make their own decisions about that.

As for the various rationalizations being offered for hitting TB: players can always come up with rationalizations for hitting DNH's this early in a map if they want to do so, but when that happens we soon have escalated into an anything and everything goes cycle with everbody pointing the finger of blame and saying "you started it!"

So, no thanks.

And before I get preached at by other spanish about not discussing so-called internal policy decisions/affairs on the forums, what do you think you are doing by posting stuff about how Spain is punishing Britain for ____________ (insert rationalization here)? You guys don't speak for Spain as a whole any more than I do. Your decisions are just yours, not those of Spain as a whole.

[Vin Vega]

I do not approve of hitting DNH's this early in a map.

Therefore, I will not help put any points on TB nor will I attend the PB.

Other Spanish can obviously make their own decisions about that.

As for the various rationalizations being offered for hitting TB: players can always come up with rationalizations for hitting DNH's this early in a map if they want to do so, but when that happens we soon have escalated into an anything and everything goes cycle with everbody pointing the finger of blame and saying "you started it!"

So, no thanks.

And before I get preached at by other spanish about not discussing so-called internal policy decisions/affairs on the forums, what do you think you are doing by posting stuff about how Spain is punishing Britain for ____________ (insert rationalization here)? You guys don't speak for Spain as a whole any more than I do. Your decisions are just yours, not those of Spain as a whole.

Perhaps we don't show to TB and use this as a word of warning. The French have attacked the Brits 4 times, we've had 2 PB's against the Brits. We have sat in a zone while the Brits are trying to flip Guanica and assisted the Brits by only attacking the Pirates. The next day we are duel flipped while in a PB.

[Virgil Boticelli]

I do not approve of hitting DNH's this early in a map.

Therefore, I will not help put any points on TB nor will I attend the PB.

Other Spanish can obviously make their own decisions about that.

As for the various rationalizations being offered for hitting TB: players can always come up with rationalizations for hitting DNH's this early in a map if they want to do so, but when that happens we soon have escalated into an anything and everything goes cycle with everbody pointing the finger of blame and saying "you started it!"

So, no thanks.

And before I get preached at by other spanish about not discussing so-called internal policy decisions/affairs on the forums, what do you think you are doing by posting stuff about how Spain is punishing Britain for ____________ (insert rationalization here)? You guys don't speak for Spain as a whole any more than I do. Your decisions are just yours, not those of Spain as a whole.


Great to see a Spainish realize how much of a ****ty "tic for tac" tactic this was.

I knew there was a reason I respected most of you..

And that last paragraph where you stood up to your nation.. Awesomesauce...

[Ruckuz]

Perhaps we don't show to TB and use this as a word of warning. The French have attacked the Brits 4 times, we've had 2 PB's against the Brits. We have sat in a zone while the Brits are trying to flip Guanica and assisted the Brits by only attacking the Pirates. The next day we are duel flipped while in a PB.

Hate to break to to you we had PDP, jacq, gibara.

They did it to use too.

[Virgil Boticelli]

The next day we are duel flipped while in a PB.

What the funniest part about all this is that you sincerely think lolbrits and french planned this to happen? Maybe im wrong but ive not even heard a rumor saying such things.

lolbrits cant rally its own nation together yet you think we are capable of teaming up with france to duel flip you?

Vin, this is extremely childish and you know it friend. You (and any other Spanish that thinks this is acceptable) need to put somethings into perspective.

Next time i hear spain QQ over french bundle zergs, Ill be sure to not stick up for you guys like I have been.

Face it Vin, there is no conspiracy to destroy the Spanish nation. And frankly speaking, Id want spain to win map after map over france anyday (and im sure more brits feel the same). But the point is, this isnt about Spain vs France. Its about Spain taking things a little to "conspiracy theorist" and pissing and kicking on a downed nation.

Simply put, brits HATE france so to think we teamed up is silly.

[Loopyg]

these threads are why i luv this game

/pleasecontinue

[Saiyaku]

we know you didnt plan this with the french.

We extended our hand to help you flip a rat port only for you to spit in it the very next day.That is why tb was flipped.

as for the pb we dont know if we are going to show or not.

[Charissela d'Avonle]

And that last paragraph where you stood up to your nation.. Awesomesauce...

To be accurate, I am not "standing up to my nation", because hitting TB was not a "national decision". It was instead an action carried out by a relatively small number of players for their own reasons. Those players are not Rulers of Spain.

Now it is up to them, and the rest of Spain, to decide whether they are going to seriously try to take TB or not.

I have already made my own view clear. Nuff said.

[Ruckuz]

No, but your national actions can effect decisions on how the map has played out. Sisal/Campeche were taken off the board by French for targets atm. I'm sure if you actually take TB, this map will turn into everything being on the table. Everything will escalate.

[Vin Vega]

No, but your national actions can effect decisions on how the map has played out. Sisal/Campeche were taken off the board by French for targets atm. I'm sure if you actually take TB, this map will turn into everything being on the table. Everything will escalate.

I like it when you make threats.

[Charissela d'Avonle]

I'm sure if you actually take TB, this map will turn into everything being on the table. Everything will escalate.

I have no doubt about that. I have seen that sort of thing happen many times before.

[Vin Vega]

Face it Vin, there is no conspiracy to destroy the Spanish nation. And frankly speaking, Id want spain to win map after map over france anyday (and im sure more brits feel the same). But the point is, this isnt about Spain vs France. Its about Spain taking things a little to "conspiracy theorist" and pissing and kicking on a downed nation.

Simply put, brits HATE france so to think we teamed up is silly.

As has been stated, we understand there is no conspiracy. Those Brits who decided to flip PoS started doing so after the French attacked Plata and we were getting ready for a PB to defend Havana. Both flips were completed shortly after the PB ended. The Brits didn't conspire, but saw opportunity.

So about 8 DCA, 4 RL, and a few other societies ended up at TB in response. Its clear that the Brits want a closer Iron supply, thus why POS has already been attacked. Most of the BB Brits ran a lot of econ out of PoS and that was always the first port they hit. Some Spanish have their iron there on Antigua and want it protected. Would most see Plata as more important to hold? Yes. So unless the Plata battle ends within an hour, I'd say that the Brits have a better than 50% chance of winning PoS with their new transfers.

[Ruckuz]

I like it when you make threats.

Its not a threat. It's a fact. You hit a DNH your escalating conflict and breaking widely accepted agreements. Accept responsiblity for your actions, in this case your actions reflect on your nation.

Its time for spain to decide what they want to do and we will see very shortly.

[Vin Vega]

Its not a threat. It's a fact. You hit a DNH your escalating conflict and breaking widely accepted agreements. Accept responsiblity for your actions, in this case your actions reflect on your nation.

Its time for spain to decide what they want to do and we will see very shortly.

Coming from you, this is funny. Thanks for posting the /spit on St Johns thread so I didn't have to.

[seabait]

Vin Vin Vin,
As per our agreement you were sapose to hit Cayo and St Johns first so I have to regretfully tell you that the 10 mill db payout cannot be paid at this time.
Please make sure you read the fine print in my contracts next time bud.
:p:p:p:p

[Ruckuz]

Coming from you, this is funny. Thanks for posting the /spit on St Johns thread so I didn't have to.

Yes 3 french DNH were hit before we responded.

[Vin Vega]

Yes 3 french DNH were hit before we responded.
And the Brits were quite scary at the time, weren't they?

[Ruckuz]

And the Brits were quite scary at the time, weren't they?

They seemed to think we should have been afraid. And 2 of them were the spanish. So ask pico/jaws how afraid we were...

[thejawz]

They seemed to think we should have been afraid. And 2 of them were the spanish. So ask pico/jaws how afraid we were...

You were crying like a little girl you were so scared.

[Slevin MacKnife]

No, but we could make a judgement based on the opinions of a few different socs.

isy intend to be there, but heh for us its just another chance for a fun fight

[Slevin MacKnife]

I don't know for a fact but the stacking of Plata and ST may have contributed to the situation. I wasn't on but just a guess.

ah yes. i forgot spain cant attend 2 pb's 5 hours apart

[Vin Vega]

isy intend to be there, but heh for us its just another chance for a fun fight

Won't the PB take time away from doing dailies and econ? :P

[Ruckuz]

You were crying like a little girl you were so scared.

yes, we were so scared raising the French flag.

Coming from Mr. I'm too scared to bring 1st rate to pb. :(

[macer123]

It's apparent some of the stronger nations already are showing signs of fracture...It's to be expected I think all four of us are experiencing the same.

You can tell who has confidence in their fleets by who is attacking whom.

Given the prior history on this server, other servers, the members of Spain will play to crush.

Let me fix that....

Given the history of every nation on every server, if given the opportunity they will play to crush.

Please take note that play to crush can be interpreted many different ways. Just last map on BB, the brits were playing to crush because we'd bring six 1st rates to a PB.

France brought 16 to one against us here...the scales are certainly different these days...

Brits are staying strong, we are figuring things out and we have a ton of new captains willing to fight in the read. Some of you have noticed that and thanks for the good fights. Killing our DNHs will only make those captains leave the game, not show up in the red for good PvP and blow off Port Battles. That's fine it's the game, but you guys control the future of RvR. Now I know what Spain felt like when they were abandoned by many on Blackbeard....hmm, was that the same people? :p

[Vin Vega]

It's apparently some of the stronger nations already are showing signs of fracture...It's to be expected I think all four of us are experiencing the same.

You can tell who has confidence in their fleets by who is attacking whom.

Given the prior history on this server, other servers, the members of Spain will play to crush.

Let me fix that....

Given the history of every nation on every server, if given the opportunity they will play to crush.

Please take note that play to crush can be interpreted many different ways. Just last map on BB, the brits were playing to crush because we'd bring six 1st rates to a PB.

France brought 16 to one against us here...the scales are certainly different these days...

Brits are staying strong, we are figuring things out and we have a ton of new captains willing to fight in the read. Some of you have noticed that and thanks for the good fights. Killing our DNHs will only make those captains leave the game, not show up in the red for good PvP and blow off Port Battles. That's fine it's the game, but you guys control the future of RvR. Now I know what Spain felt like when they were abandoned by many on Blackbeard....hmm, was that the same people? :p


Last 2 weeks of PBs:

France v Brits: 4 times
Spain v Brits: 2 times + 1 scheduled
Spain v France: 4 times
Spain v Pirate: 1 Scheduled
France v Spain: 3 + 2 scheduled

[Pelleas Pendragon]

Hate to break to to you we had PDP, jacq, gibara.

They did it to use too.

No **** they did it to you. I mentioned that a few times last night. They did it twice this week. Reap what you sow. And Ruckus, does Spain flipping TB really come down to you or France threatening Spain? You still haven't realized that when you make such imposing threats on us, you are much more likely to make us **** ourselves with laughter than cower in horror. Save yourself the unknown redicule, for your prides sake.

[Ruckuz]

Macer's post went over your head vin. its okay.

Pell where did I threaten you. I said in others words but let me be crystal clear. It sets about precedence of escalating of events to where all rules/common agreements are off the table. (mainly DNH harbors)

Its bad for pvp and its bad for the server and you know it on a long term outlook. We have a chance possibly finally to have 4 way rvr. Currently its 3 way. And your kicking the brits while there down. That's how most see it.

They have to convince someone to come into the red, they can't do it with 2 groups of pirates killing everything, 2 groups from spain and 2 groups from France. They won't come in and they won't learn, and the first time those who do get rolled they will log/quit eventually. Thats pretty much what happens.

[macer123]

Macer's post went over your head vin. its okay.

/QFTTYVM

Don't get me wrong, this has been the greatest map/pvp, etc I've been part of....even on the getting ****curbstomped side.

[Vin Vega]

Macer's post went over your head vin. its okay.

It didn't, but nice try. Macer is not quite the troll you are. He at least has the intellect to structure his trolls properly. You throw up on your keyboard and hit submit reply.

[Pelleas Pendragon]

Killing our DNHs will only make those captains leave the game, not show up in the red for good PvP and blow off Port Battles. That's fine it's the game, but you guys control the future of RvR. Now I know what Spain felt like when they were abandoned by many on Blackbeard....hmm, was that the same people? :p

Have you ever even had a conversation with me? How the hell would you ever know what I, or we, would abandon?

[WarHawk MacQueen]

Have you ever even had a conversation with me? How the hell would you ever know what I, or we, would abandon?

You abandoned me pell.... You abandoned me...

[macer123]

Have you ever even had a conversation with me? How the hell would you ever know what I, or we, would abandon?

Where in that paragraph did I say Pellas? Wow, talk about taking the bait that wasn't directed at you. ROFL FISHON!!!!

[Amilius]

TB, Cayo, and Havana should be off limits until at least the last week or so of the map. This doesn't apply to the Rats obviously. Yet, i have no sympathy for the Brits, especially the BB brit transfers. During the month before the move to antigua, the BB brits went and took Cayo right at the start of the map cycle, france wasn't in a position to even defend the port. So all us frenchies had to pay that outrageous tax on bundles and everything else while we were waiting to transfer to tiggy..

[TrevorD1776D]

Ded is uber l33t troller, look at what he started. Now he can sit back and make some popcorn . . . .

/passpopcorn

[Charissela d'Avonle]

TB, Cayo, and Havana should be off limits until at least the last week or so of the map. This doesn't apply to the Rats obviously. Yet, i have no sympathy for the Brits, especially the BB brits transfers. During the month before the move to antigua, the BB brits went and took Cayo right at the start of the map cycle, france wasn't in a position to even defend the port. So all us frenchies had to pay that outrageous tax on bundles and everything else while we were waiting to transfer to tiggy..

This is post-merger Tiggy, not some other server nor even Tiggy in pre-merger history.

Anybody could rationalize any behavior at all by saying "but so and so did this before!". Instead of engaging in that sort of finger pointing (of which EVERY side has plenty of ammo), let's treat post-merger Tiggy as the new start that it is. K?

[gussie]

Ded is uber l33t troller, look at what he started. Now he can sit back and make some popcorn . . . .

/passpopcorn

Credit where credit is due, he did promise to troll more:) Other people falling for it ain't his fault.

[Slevin MacKnife]

Last 2 weeks of PBs:

France v Brits: 4 times
Spain v Brits: 2 times + 1 scheduled
Spain v France: 4 times
Spain v Pirate: 1 Scheduled
France v Spain: 3 + 2 scheduled

this is irrelevant until you look at ports

France v Brits: west end, nassau, 2 failed brit offensives
spain vs brits: pc, spanish town, dnh pb scheduled

makes for better reading imo

[TrevorD1776D]

Credit where credit is due, he did promise to troll more:) Other people falling for it ain't his fault.

inorite !! 7 pages not to mention 4 other threads from other players about Spain hitting TB . . . go figure.

It is funny tho and I think Spain is being a little sensitive to having stacked PB's, it happens ALL the time. And didn't France flip STJ last map in like the first week ?? Wasn't in repsonse to the evil lolbrits hitting Leogane or some nonsense . . . . pot - kettle . . . make babies nao !!

[Slevin MacKnife]

inorite !! 7 pages not to mention 4 other threads from other players about Spain hitting TB . . . go figure.

It is funny tho and I think Spain is being a little sensitive to having stacked PB's, it happens ALL the time. And didn't France flip STJ last map in like the first week ?? Wasn't in repsonse to the evil lolbrits hitting Leogane or some nonsense . . . . pot - kettle . . . make babies nao !!

the funny part about it is that at the same time they complain about pb stacking, they also complain about 30+ people in pb que's :/

[TrevorD1776D]

the funny part about it is that at the same time they complain about pb stacking, they also complain about 30+ people in pb que's :/

pff Rats have like 50 in que . .

[BigHead]

this is irrelevant until you look at ports

France v Brits: west end, nassau, 2 failed brit offensives
spain vs brits: pc, spanish town, dnh pb scheduled

makes for better reading imo

West End, Nassau = Not worth much.

PC. Spanish Town = Iron towns + a dnh

hm...

[Vin Vega]

the funny part about it is that at the same time they complain about pb stacking, they also complain about 30+ people in pb que's :/

What you fail to see is that even when we have had a list that long, people in the 20's are getting into the PB.

[TrevorD1776D]

West End, Nassau = Not worth much.

PC. Spanish Town = Iron towns + a dnh

hm...

well, if you put it that way it looks like Spain is a bunch carebear lolbrit zergers :(

[Vin Vega]

well, if you put it that way it looks like Spain is a bunch carebear lolbrit zergers :(

Or you could look at it that the French like to grind up small bubbles from outside the red. :P

[Jonathan Berkeley]

So.

As a currently unsubscribed player, I have only one thing to contribute to this thread.

Are we having fun here?

[Rakam LeSanglant]

So.

As a currently unsubscribed player, I have only one thing to contribute to this thread.

Are we having fun here?


5TFU NO U

Just sub oready.

[macer123]

So.

As a currently unsubscribed player, I have only one thing to contribute to this thread.

Are we having fun here?

Seriously, no troll here, the game is great right now. RvR sucks right now for the brits, but I've had more PvP, we all have had more PvP than we've ever had before.

Now is the time to come back, not only to help your nation, but if you are in to PvP, it's epic times.

[TrevorD1776D]

Now is the time to come back, not only to help your nation, but if you are in to PvP, it's epic times.

Berk's a RP'er . .

[macer123]

Berk's a RP'er . .


Well then he can RP to his heart's content while learning to sink things....all with a British accent on vent (real or improvised).

[TrevorD1776D]

Or you could look at it that the French like to grind up small bubbles from outside the red. :P

I figure they are just lazy and don't like to sail there bundlezergs too far from GV :)

[TrevorD1776D]

Well then he can RP to his heart's content while learning to sink things....all with a British accent on vent (real or improvised).

hmm very good point . . .

[Lux Aeterna]

Berk's a RP'er . .

Really? I have no one to RP with on British nation. :(

I'm also learning PvP and RvR. It's all good!

[Virgil Boticelli]

To be accurate, I am not "standing up to my nation", because hitting TB was not a "national decision". It was instead an action carried out by a relatively small number of players for their own reasons. Those players are not Rulers of Spain.

Now it is up to them, and the rest of Spain, to decide whether they are going to seriously try to take TB or not.

I have already made my own view clear. Nuff said.

To be accurate, you stating you dont necessarily agree and thus wont help with flipping the port, even against the objective of your nation, is "standing up to your nation".

So yea, thank you. :)

[thejawz]

yes, we were so scared raising the French flag.

Coming from Mr. I'm too scared to bring 1st rate to pb. :(

Yeah thats why I bring it idiot.

[WarHawk MacQueen]

Yeah thats why I bring it idiot.

Milkshakes?

[mud117]

I couldn't find a clear response to why the Spanish hit TB except for some conspiracy theories...

[Loopyg]

I couldn't find a clear response to why the Spanish hit TB except for some conspiracy theories...

layoff the tin foil. when in doubt blame it on a group of liquered up newbs

[TrevorD1776D]

This thread will not make it to 15 pages before being closed . . . just sayin

[Horatio Wilberforce]

I couldn't find a clear response to why the Spanish hit TB except for some conspiracy theories...

This is the type of response that really confuses me. This is a game, people will do what they deem necessary to win. Getting your panties in a twist over how victory is achieved is always a waste of time. Trying to understanding why people do what they do is also a mindless exercise in frivolity.

The endless QQ people engage in got old a month after release, over 23 months later it is still going on. If you want to QQ you will always have a reason: Dayflips, nightflips, PB stacking, hitting DNH, ganking, nation alliances, etc.

Lets just play and see who wins the map affording one another a meager amount of respect in the process. One way or another, someone will find some way to mitigate the eventual map victor anyway.

Not that I'm defending the TB flip, as I don't think anyone has to, but consider this:

TB is important to the Brits. The Brits have population and a relatively large fleet. Aforementioned large fleet has yet to show itself in any meaningful form. Don's hit TB, forcing the Brits to man up and defend a port that matters. Brits could potentially show very heavy for the PB and then beat the Don's(who have had problems getting significant heavies into PB). Brits then use the PB at TB, which was forced upon them by the mean nasty Dons as a morale builder. Which in turn provides confidence to their nation and builds esprit de corp.

In my mind teamwork is the most important part of this game.

QQ on plebs.

[mud117]

when in doubt blame it on a group of liquered up newbs

I found the answer in another thread:

Double stacking PB's with the French while we are in a PB defending Havana resulted in the flip of TB. Your leaders should have understood the consequences.

Seems like a rather silly reason, but hey, not my nation.

[mud117]

This is the type of response that really confuses me. This is a game, people will do what they deem necessary to win. Getting your panties in a twist over how victory is achieved is always a waste of time. Understanding why people do what they do is also a mindless exercise in frivolity.

The endless QQ people engage in got old a month after release, over 23 months later it is still going on. If you want to QQ you will always have a reason: Dayflips, nightflips, PB stacking, hitting DNH, ganking, etc.

Lets just play and see who wins the map affording one another a meager amount of respect in the process. One way or another, someone will find some way to mitigate the eventual map victor anyway.

Wasn't QQ'ing, wanted to know why you guys hit it, since there's usually justification for hitting a DNH. Like I said above, found the answer.

[Horatio Wilberforce]

Wasn't QQ'ing, wanted to know why you guys hit it, since there's usually justification for hitting a DNH. Like I said above, found the answer.

You quoted Vin's reason for flipping TB. I'm sure some people agree with his rationale, but I'm absolutely certain that is not why everyone was there. No nation is monolithic. I couldn't of cared about the stacked PB's.

I'll say it again:

Trying to understanding why people do what they do is a mindless exercise in frivolity.

I'm constantly reminded of the 4th rule of the Rackham forum. Which incidentally is the same exact rule on this forum!

[Not Woody]

I'm constantly reminded of the 4th rule of the Rackham forum. Which incidentally is the same exact rule on this forum!

NO WAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I met dunekitty once. Have you, General?

[Vin Vega]

Wasn't QQ'ing, wanted to know why you guys hit it, since there's usually justification for hitting a DNH. Like I said above, found the answer.

Pico told me that with the last patch they converted Brass Cannon Lining general mod from a mission item to an ultra rare drop that only Brit fleets around TB will drop. I'm still searching for that item.... Blame FLS for nerfing that mission and making DCL a drop around TB.

[Horatio Wilberforce]

Pico told me that with the last patch they converted Brass Cannon Lining general mod from a mission item to an ultra rare drop that only Brit fleets around TB will drop. I'm still searching for that item.... Blame FLS for nerfing that mission and making DCL a drop around TB.

What? I thought we were there to acquire the ultra-rare nublet tears to offer to the gankeroo. Now I'm confused...

[Vin Vega]

What? I thought we were there to acquire the ultra-rare nublet tears to offer to the gankeroo. Now I'm confused...

Loose lips sink ships....

[Candice Wales]

Lets just play and see who wins the map affording one another a meager amount of respect in the process.

Here is the problem as most consider leaving TB alone to be a meager amount of respect.

Just sayin'

[Horatio Wilberforce]

Loose lips sink ships....

doh!

/moarletterz

[Horatio Wilberforce]

Here is the problem as most consider leaving TB alone to be a meager amount of respect.

Just sayin'

Sorry to say, but the cats already out of the bag on that one.

For me, a meager amount of respect is:

1) Making an attempt to say GF or tiphat after you engaged the enemy.

2) Treating people that play this game like people, instead of pixels on a screen.

3) Not QQing over how other people choose to play the game provided the aforementioned rules are not broken.

My meager amount of respect does not extend to any specific gameplay tactics or strategy.

That is just my opinion though which is in part a product of my in game experiences. I remember living as a Brit without TB on Rackham(we lost it for awhile on BB too). It sucked, but life goes on. :-)

[Ria Fang]

Wow, what a fantastic read for me... anywho, I figured I could throw my irrelevant froggie opinion into this.

Spain should show up without regret for hitting it. come in HHs and Reasons or Macs. Make it a fun port battle for some who might have not have attended any portbattles or those who need experience ( like a pirate pb)

Britain should show up with a force that they believe will win them their dnh... How much is that port worth to you? Show us you deserve to keep your own port.

Best thing to do is have fun with this, its what port battles should be :)

[seabait]

Pico told me that with the last patch they converted Brass Cannon Lining general mod from a mission item to an ultra rare drop that only Brit fleets around TB will drop. I'm still searching for that item.... Blame FLS for nerfing that mission and making DCL a drop around TB.
Vin Vin Vin,
You know better then to listen to Pico.
And everyone knows all the best drops are from the French fleets at Cayo.:rolleyes:

[emallory]

So.

As a currently unsubscribed player, I have only one thing to contribute to this thread.

Are we having fun here?

I joined the Spanish flip of TB last night as my first RVR action after resubbing for 2 reasons: 1) pvp is fun
2) port battles are fun

also, this thread is fun.

[mud117]

Pico told me that with the last patch they converted Brass Cannon Lining general mod from a mission item to an ultra rare drop that only Brit fleets around TB will drop. I'm still searching for that item.... Blame FLS for nerfing that mission and making DCL a drop around TB.

I'll trade you 748653 'xploited 1st rates for a DCL!

[Vin Vega]

I'll trade you 748653 'xploited 1st rates for a DCL!

Don't taint me bro :)

[WarHawk MacQueen]

Lick my doodiddle noobs.

[mud117]

Don't taint me bro :)

I need payback after being tainted from the Roleplaying room... :(

[Slevin MacKnife]

taking dnh's is NOT playing to crush

This is playing to crush.....

[emallory]

Is that the same lady in Tea's avatar?

[mud117]

This is playing to crush.....

Now I won't be able to sleep.

[Not Woody]

taking dnh's is NOT playing to crush

This is playing to crush.....

I see my birthday photos have been released to the public.

[jfriedt]

I think it's funny that SD is actually before TB.

Look folks, this map is already doomed to devolve into every nation for itself tactics. Not sure why a 120 post (and counting) thread is gonna accomplish except to feed ded's ego. lol

[iamcris]

5- Charissa was there I saw myself- true story
4- it's BCL not DCL, that's code for break 1-9 we got incoming noseys hot on the tracks of the real drop site, Tuna is right Cayo/Grenville area though LUM beats his teddybear nightly now that we know the BCL dropsite will likely change AGAIN.
3- For my last day as acting King of Spain I said "hit TB" and TB was hit.
2- now it's WarHawks problem
1- Ruckuz **** you incoherent FCKTARDNOoBa5SmunchingDonkeyHUMPER




ps- special message for seraphric- RAWR

[WarHawk MacQueen]

Now I won't be able to sleep.

then rub it out before you go to sleep you sick bastard.

[WarHawk MacQueen]

5- Charissa was there I saw myself- true story
4- it's BCL not DCL, that's code for break 1-9 we got incoming noseys hot on the tracks of the real drop site, Tuna is right Cayo/Grenville area though LUM beats his teddybear nightly now that we know the BCL dropsite will likely change AGAIN.
3- For my last day as acting King of Spain I said "hit TB" and TB was hit.
2- now it's WarHawks problem
1- Ruckuz **** you incoherent FCKTARDNOoBa5SmunchingDonkeyHUMPER




ps- special message for seraphric- RAWR

I'm not King of Spain... before I could seat myself, Vin stole the throne like the a bastard he is.

[iamcris]

you can be acting secretary of initiating the secret deployment of council to the registrar of commanding forces for the director of administrating operating specialsauce liberator.


I know you are best suited to make it be.

[WarHawk MacQueen]

you can be acting secretary of initiating the secret deployment of council to the registrar of commanding forces for the director of administrating operating specialsauce liberator.


I know you are best suited to make it be.

sounds like the right job for me!

[Virgil Boticelli]

TB is important to the Brits. The Brits have population and a relatively large fleet. Aforementioned large fleet has yet to show itself in any meaningful form. Don's hit TB, forcing the Brits to man up and defend a port that matters. Brits could potentially show very heavy for the PB and then beat the Don's(who have had problems getting significant heavies into PB). Brits then use the PB at TB, which was forced upon them by the mean nasty Dons as a morale builder. Which in turn provides confidence to their nation and builds esprit de corp.

In my mind teamwork is the most important part of this game.

QQ on plebs.

No offense but you obviously know very little about the Brit nation. A large fleet? Lots of pvps? Veterans? Your lost pal.

This nation got hit very hard in regards to the merge and what players we lost. Most of the pvp societies here left for Spain or rat Zerg. We have a ton of young unexperienced noob captains. It's going to need much more then a forced attack on TB to save this nation.

We simply need time to train our youth, rally our forces new and old, build bigger ships (which isn't easy without a dh) to turn thngs around.

Your cute little afterschool special of it u uniting our nation and feedng us hope is laughable and makes me think you have a future with disney makng cute little fairy tales.

We aren't the disorganized pirates that need to organize and unite. We are simply a young nation neding time to grow and mature some solid pvp playrs.

We have leadership galore and plenty willing to go into red. We simply don't have many if an y "feared" everyday pvpers. That's the problem here.

[Charissela d'Avonle]

No offense but you obviously know very little about the Brit nation. A large fleet? Lots of pvps? Veterans? Your lost pal.

This nation got hit very hard in regards to the merge and what players we lost. Most of the pvp societies here left for Spain or rat Zerg. We have a ton of young unexperienced noob captains. It's going to need much more then a forced attack on TB to save this nation.

We simply need time to train our youth, rally our forces new and old, build bigger ships (which isn't easy without a dh) to turn thngs around.

Your cute little afterschool special of it u uniting our nation and feedng us hope is laughable and makes me think you have a future with disney makng cute little fairy tales.

We aren't the disorganized pirates that need to organize and unite. We are simply a young nation neding time to grow and mature some solid pvp playrs.

We have leadership galore and plenty willing to go into red. We simply don't have many if an y "feared" everyday pvpers. That's the problem here.

The problem you are having here is from your fellow Brits. They seem to be saying that TB is not an important DNH after all because it is seldom used anyway.

So, *shrug*, I suppose Spain should try to take TB after all. I was under the impression that it was an important DNH for the Brits, but if the Brits themselves state otherwise, so be it.

[Horatio Wilberforce]

No offense but you obviously know very little about the Brit nation. A large fleet? Lots of pvps? Veterans? Your lost pal.

This nation got hit very hard in regards to the merge and what players we lost. Most of the pvp societies here left for Spain or rat Zerg. We have a ton of young unexperienced noob captains. It's going to need much more then a forced attack on TB to save this nation.

We simply need time to train our youth, rally our forces new and old, build bigger ships (which isn't easy without a dh) to turn thngs around.

Your cute little afterschool special of it u uniting our nation and feedng us hope is laughable and makes me think you have a future with disney makng cute little fairy tales.

We aren't the disorganized pirates that need to organize and unite. We are simply a young nation neding time to grow and mature some solid pvp playrs.

We have leadership galore and plenty willing to go into red. We simply don't have many if an y "feared" everyday pvpers. That's the problem here.

Seriously, stop selling yourself and your nation short. It is my educate belief that Britain can get more 1st in a PB than Spain currently. With what you all absorbed from the mergers with BB alone this can be accomplished(never mind ISY). I imagine it is attitudes like yours which make people hesitant to put their hard earned boats on the line.

You aren't "disorganized pirates that need to organize and unite" yet you start your post with:

"This nation got hit very hard in regards to the merge and what players we lost. Most of the pvp societies here left for Spain or rat Zerg. We have a ton of young unexperienced noob captains."

Sounds like you guys are truly united and organized, seeing you are insulting your nation openly on this forum. Never mind, your statement is clearly from the perspective of a native Tiggy Brit, because you have completely ignored that Brit BB and ISY have joined your ranks. Keep looking at your glass half full instead of working with what you have.

I'm not going to play into your QQ game. Is this game fun for you? As it seems your doing a lot of QQ for someone enjoying themselves.

[arustyfishhook]

No offense but you obviously know very little about the Brit nation. A large fleet? Lots of pvps? Veterans? Your lost pal.

This nation got hit very hard in regards to the merge and what players we lost. Most of the pvp societies here left for Spain or rat Zerg. We have a ton of young unexperienced noob captains. It's going to need much more then a forced attack on TB to save this nation.

We simply need time to train our youth, rally our forces new and old, build bigger ships (which isn't easy without a dh) to turn thngs around.

Your cute little afterschool special of it u uniting our nation and feedng us hope is laughable and makes me think you have a future with disney makng cute little fairy tales.

We aren't the disorganized pirates that need to organize and unite. We are simply a young nation neding time to grow and mature some solid pvp playrs.

We have leadership galore and plenty willing to go into red. We simply don't have many if an y "feared" everyday pvpers. That's the problem here.

nah I really don't think many Brits want to learn how to pvp because they avoid it. You don't need a veteran to learn how to pvp. I think the fear of getting sunk is the problem. Get some cheap vanilla boats and go kill stuff. Pm someone in a Spanish soc and im sure they would gladly match boats and share tips.

[Charissela d'Avonle]

Seriously, stop selling yourself and your nation short. It is my educate belief that Britain can get more 1st in a PB than Spain currently. With what you all absorbed from the mergers with BB alone this can be accomplished(never mind ISY). I imagine it is attitudes like yours which make people hesitant to put their hard earned boats on the line.

.

I don't know anything about the BB brits, never having played on BB, but the ISY transfer has the potential to transform tiggy Britain from lolBrits to a serious map contender. Tiggy Brits should listen to those guys. They know what they are doing.

[Horatio Wilberforce]

Tiggy Brits should listen to those guys.

Traditionally this has been a serious short coming with the Tiggy Brits IMO. New people(whether they be re-rolls, transfers, or nubs) have a hard time catching on and being accepted. There is a serious lack of respect for others in Tiggy Brit land. Which is why only societies like DCA that re-roll/transfer there can strive in that type of environment.

Don't take my word for this, just read through the posts by Brits on these very boards. The problems seem clear to everyone, but those best positioned to fix it.

I'm hoping that the ISY guys will be a supreme step in the right direction. I can't help but think, it will be a lot like when the Council tried to help out in Brit land. Especially considering how different Roberts is from Tiggy(attitude wise).

[Virgil Boticelli]

The problem you are having here is from your fellow Brits. They seem to be saying that TB is not an important DNH after all because it is seldom used anyway.

So, *shrug*, I suppose Spain should try to take TB after all. I was under the impression that it was an important DNH for the Brits, but if the Brits themselves state otherwise, so be it.

Lets get one thing straight. TB is a crucial port to the brits. You know this just as well as I do. Just because of a few stubborn brits wanna say otherwise doesnt make it so.

Our entire nation isnt saying its worthless so why do you take what a few say as if thats what our entire nation thinks? They are not Great Britain. Nor do a few represent our collective thoughts or opinions.

TB is crucial as its one of our major ship building hubs. And if you dont think so, explain why its constantly in the red. Almost as much as SJ.

Seriously, stop selling yourself and your nation short. It is my educate belief that Britain can get more 1st in a PB than Spain currently. With what you all absorbed from the mergers with BB alone this can be accomplished(never mind ISY). I imagine it is attitudes like yours which make people hesitant to put their hard earned boats on the line.

You aren't "disorganized pirates that need to organize and unite" yet you start your post with:

"This nation got hit very hard in regards to the merge and what players we lost. Most of the pvp societies here left for Spain or rat Zerg. We have a ton of young unexperienced noob captains."

Sounds like you guys are truly united and organized, seeing you are insulting your nation openly on this forum. Never mind, your statement is clearly from the perspective of a native Tiggy Brit, because you have completely ignored that Brit BB and ISY have joined your ranks. Keep looking at your glass half full instead of working with what you have.

I'm not going to play into your QQ game. Is this game fun for you? As it seems your doing a lot of QQ for someone enjoying themselves.

This should be interesting..

First off just because we have a few 1st rates doesnt suggest we have this massive bundle fleet in hiding just scared to bring out. Yes, a few of our players have them. But what you fail to realize is 2 things:

1) Just because someone owns a 1st rate doesnt mean they PvP. Britain is Econ nation full of players that love to pve, fleet and do econ work. Just because they earned enough to buy a first rate doesnt mean they ever intended to use it in pvp. Perhaps they dont pvp at all. Which, if you read my post, is exactly what i said. Lots of newbs, leaders and econ players. We are lacking the everyday pvp crowd.

2) Having a 1st rate isnt an instant win button. Just ask Frenchies. You have to match the ships performance to the captain controlling it. A first rate in a pvp noobs hand is as deadly as a Jamaican sloop.. I expected someone liek yourself to know the difference.

Dont put myself in the suggestion that its my kind that is making the BB brits not bringing out there big toys. Have you ever thought that brits as a whole have decided this map isnt worth wasting the best of our ships and instead using it to train our youths? We are a young nation and as such most have decided to build for the future.

To speak frankly, its *******s like you that keep talking about how there is a division in brit land. Yes we dont always agree but neither do all the other nations. And its not our lack of agreement that is the reason for our short comings on the pvp front. We have a bunch of EXCELLENT pvp leaders, but they have no one to lead but newbs. Why dont you seem to understand that? Our nation is coming together so keep your negativity about how we are all just fighting with each other to yourself...

Your simply an outsider of a nation and have no idea what your talking about. Your not british, your not in our vents nor in our nation chat.

And im not insulting my nation. What part of what I said is not the truth? Do I insult them by giving free stuff to new brit players because I know they are going to be our lifeblood? Do I insult my nation while pvp trainning and getting ready for when we make our stand? How about that I lost a dura on my Mace KNOWING im a complete pvp noob still yet I was trying to help a lvl 19 from being ganked? That to me is "working with what you got".

Just because I can name our shot comings doesnt mean I insult my nation, its called being a realist.. I will remain brit whether we win or lose. That shows my trues colors.

Btw, if your going to make a feeble attempt at insulting someone for being negative, you might wanna get your phrases right.. The glass half full suggests someones an optimist. So yea, work on that.

nah I really don't think many Brits want to learn how to pvp because they avoid it. You don't need a veteran to learn how to pvp. I think the fear of getting sunk is the problem. Get some cheap vanilla boats and go kill stuff. Pm someone in a Spanish soc and im sure they would gladly match boats and share tips.

Thats simply not true. I wish you were a brit to see how many young and new players are dying to get into pvp. Yes we dont have many every day pvp groups, but every night i see more and more newly 50 players diving into the red. We are doing what we can. And thank you for you invitation of giving us tips. However, we have PLENTY of leaders in our nation. They are just very busy trainning our noobs :)

I hate that the other nations think we are just QQ'n.. We have an absolute uphill battle yet inside our nation we are all striving for our goal. There are a few differences but nothing we cant overcome. Our younger players are becoming better and we are really making headway in our pvp groups department.

Things wont change overnight.. But I promise, they are changing.

We will soon leave behind the "lol" when talkin about the brit nation.

Traditionally this has been a serious short coming with the Tiggy Brits IMO. New people(whether they be re-rolls, transfers, or nubs) have a hard time catching on and being accepted. There is a serious lack of respect for others in Tiggy Brit land. Which is why only societies like DCA that re-roll/transfer there can strive in that type of environment.

Don't take my word for this, just read through the posts by Brits on these very boards. The problems seem clear to everyone, but those best positioned to fix it.

I'm hoping that the ISY guys will be a supreme step in the right direction. I can't help but think, it will be a lot like when the Council tried to help out in Brit land. Especially considering how different Roberts is from Tiggy(attitude wise).

Sorry but us "Native" Brits (im from bonny btw) are not discounting these guys. In fact we are welcoming them. However, its most of you outsiders that seem to be causing most of the problems suggesting we do nothing but fight.

But you also have to understand BB Brits are not here save the day, nor can they. Brits dont need a savior, we just need experience.

With that being said, if ANYONE coming into ANY nation suggesting to be the savior of that nation, I promise they will have a short friends list.

Nobody wants to feel like they need saving. So people need to stop acting surprised when certain people fight back to the group suggesting them alone will win a map..

Just like pro sports.. A team fights when losing, and laughs when winning. Winning will cure any minor fighting within our nation. It just so happens we have getting punched in the month.. We dont respond well to losing.

[Not Woody]

/poooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopcorn refill

[mud117]

I don't think the Brits are that far off from being a RvR contender. All they need is someone charismatic and active to push them in the right direction. A US time PvP society would be helpful too, as I think ISY will help the Euro portion of Brit-land by just being there.

[Horatio Wilberforce]

Just because I can name our shot comings doesnt mean I insult my nation, its called being a realist.. I will remain brit whether we win or lose. That shows my trues colors.


Why would you be a "realist" in an open forum which is inundated with your OPPONENTS? Do you think being a "realist" on the public forum helps your nation?

Does any Brit think being a "realist" on the open forum is good for your nation? Seriously, I'm curious.

My rule of thumb, nation chat and the forum are the root of all inter-nation division and headaches.

Any response to my questions in this post will be EXTREMELY IRONIC!

[Virgil Boticelli]

Why would you be a "realist" in an open forum which is inundated with your OPPONENTS? Do you think being a "realist" on the public forum helps your nation?

Does any Brit think being a "realist" on the open forum is good for your nation? Seriously, I'm curious.

My rule of thumb, nation chat and the forum are the root of all inter-nation division and headaches.

Any response to my questions in this post will be EXTREMELY IRONIC!

Thats a silly comment..

When I'm at work for example, and it's slow,
I don't have access to potbs, but I do to the forums. You can't be in game
24/7 to help your nation... It IS a game after all

::RollEyes::

[RacecarRay]

Any response to my questions in this post will be EXTREMELY IRONIC!

Are you calling me an i-ron? I resent that, sir!

[Horatio Wilberforce]

Are you calling me an i-ron? I resent that, sir!

The I-Ron Man of Propaganda? I keed :-P

[Horatio Wilberforce]

Thats a silly comment..

When I'm at work for example, and it's slow,
I don't have access to potbs, but I do to the forums. You can't be in game
24/7 to help your nation... It IS a game after all

::RollEyes::

There are plenty of places on the forum where you can kid around, talk strategy, talk about game mechanics or anything else on your mind. Do you really need to be occupying your time with selling your nation short, or as you call it "being a realist"?

I think I'm being a "realist" when I tell you, your insulting your nation and it is embarrassing to see. Keep your internal nation stuff internal.

Then again, I'm just an "outsider" maybe everyone in the Brit nation is secretly sadomasochistic and enjoys the "realist" perspective you and your compatriots offer on these boards.

[Virgil Boticelli]

There are plenty of places on the forum where you can kid around, talk strategy, talk about game mechanics or anything else on your mind. Do you really need to be occupying your time with selling your nation short, or as you call it "being a realist"?

I think I'm being a "realist" when I tell you, your insulting your nation and it is embarrassing to see. Keep your internal nation stuff internal.

Then again, I'm just an "outsider" maybe everyone in the Brit nation is secretly sadomasochistic and enjoys the "realist" perspective you and your compatriots offer on these boards.

My dear friend, you know nothing of what you speak. There are many people out there that share what I feel is a very accurate analysis of the problems we are facing. You know nothin about me yet because of one post seem to think I go around calling my nation pathetic. Your sadly mistaken and like I said know nothing of what you speak.

Tell me what part was insulting? Was when I said we have one of the best econs in the game and all around some of the best Econ players, insulting?

Perhaps it was me saying we have simply AMAZING leadership that doesn't get nearly the credit it deserves (I've heard nothing about how we have no leadership and I always disagree and fight that's argument)..

Maybe it was when I said we are one of the most mentallly tough nations and players in the game that are willing to be the underdog isntead of a easy button?


Oh wait maybe it was me prasing the fact we have more truely new players willing and anxious to dive into the red even tho they know they are about to lose a ship, then I've ever seen before?

Don't take my agressive ways of communicating as attacking my county. I have more pride and respect for my nation and it's playrs then you can possibly imagine. You see, unlike you our players aren't afraid of the "hard" difficulty settin that is britland.

To recap, we have great leaders, amazing Econ minded players and some of the bravest noobs I've seen in an MMO. What we lack is more everyday, all day, pvp groups. And that one little problem is being fixed with the noobs gainning experience. We have a bright future if we can just keep moving forward.

Now go on, point out the insulting..

[thejawz]

You see, unlike you our players aren't afraid of the "hard" difficulty settin that is britland.


Yeah spain is easy mode right? I agree that being a brit currently is difficult but spanish players had to go through the growing pains at one point in their career. I don't think you could ever consider any of the current rvr/pvp spanish players being "afraid" of a difficult setting.

[Virgil Boticelli]

Yeah spain is easy mode right? I agree that being a brit currently is difficult but spanish players had to go through the growing pains at one point in their career. I don't think you could ever consider any of the current rvr/pvp spanish players being "afraid" of a difficult setting.

Your absolutely right, spain did have it hard, pre merge. But the merge definitely brought a large and solid influx of pvpers to spain. Everyone knew spain was going to be good after the merger, there were threads everywhere saying "im such and such person, from such and such nation and server, and im going spain". If you didnt see spain coming as a top notch competitor then not sure what to say.

Pirate = "I win" difficulty
French = Easy to medium difficulty
Spain = medium difficulty
Britland= Hard difficulty

But you are absolutely rightly, spain didnt have it easy. Ill admit, I thought he was a frog. So my mistake.

[Horatio Wilberforce]

Tell me what part was insulting?

"No offense but you obviously know very little about the Brit nation. A large fleet? Lots of pvps? Veterans? Your lost pal.

This nation got hit very hard in regards to the merge and what players we lost. Most of the pvp societies here left for Spain or rat Zerg. We have a ton of young unexperienced noob captains. It's going to need much more then a forced attack on TB to save this nation."

I think that can easily be deemed as offensive. As unlike Tiggy Britland, both ISY and BB Brit have a long tradition of success.

Maybe it was when I said we are one of the most mentallly tough nations and players in the game that are willing to be the underdog isntead of a easy button?

Are you serious? On every server but Tiggy, Brit has always been easy mode. Only recently with re-rolls and the heavy emphasis on server balance has that equilibrium altered.

You see, unlike you our players aren't afraid of the "hard" difficulty settin that is britland.
.

Since I don't know, you and you don't know me I'm going to ignore this comment. The last thing I'm going to do is defend my choices to someone I don't even know!

[Hamilkar]

Your absolutely right, spain did have it hard, pre merge. But the merge definitely brought a large and solid influx of pvpers to spain. Everyone knew spain was going to be good after the merger, there were threads everywhere saying "im such and such person, from such and such nation and server, and im going spain". If you didnt see spain coming as a top notch competitor then not sure what to say.

Pirate = "I win" difficulty
French = Easy to medium difficulty
Spain = medium difficulty
Britland= Hard difficulty

But you are absolutely rightly, spain didnt have it easy. Ill admit, I thought he was a frog. So my mistake.

Funnything is at release and since everyone keeps expecting the Brits will finally find that 1 thing that makes them more than flashs in the pan once per map. They have all the ingredients they just cant turn them into anything edible. France and Spain have consistently fought to overcome having 1-2 missing ingredients and still consistently have competed for map wins. The Rats as a whole just dont care about what they do for RVR so any success in RVR is gravy to the pvp they get. Its easy mode on so many levels the one or two things with any difficulty are met with complaints about how bad rats have it and how much the devs must hate them.

[Virgil Boticelli]

I think that can easily be deemed as offensive. As unlike Tiggy Britland, both ISY and BB Brit have a long tradition of success.



Are you serious? On every server but Tiggy, Brit has always been easy mode. Only recently with re-rolls and the heavy emphasis on server balance has that equilibrium altered.



Since I don't know, you and you don't know me I'm going to ignore this comment. The last thing I'm going to do is defend my choices to someone I don't even know!


1) Its called cohesiveness. The brits from ISY and BB cant just come here and dominate. They need to be able to gel with the brits already here. Your stretching things my friend.

2)Ummm, are we on tiggy or "every other server"? What happens outside of tiggy is absolutely irrelevant when we are discussing a nation that resides in tiggy... In face, read my sig as its somewhat relevant to the discussion. There is no point in bringing up different servers. Live here, live now..

3) Your right, we dont know each other. Perhaps it was a stretch me throwing in the part of you liking easy mode. I dont know you well enough to determine that at all..

[Adam Hampton]

2)Ummm, are we on tiggy or "every other server"? What happens outside of tiggy is absolutely irrelevant when we are discussing a nation that resides in tiggy... In face, read my sig as its somewhat relevant to the discussion. There is no point in bringing up different servers. Live here, live now..

I think his point was that, since the servers are merging, the other servers are (so to speak) "coming to Tiggy'. Hence, the previous goings-on in other servers with regards to populations, solid societies that you can build a nation off, etc, do in fact have an effect on what's happening with the Tiggy nations, since their populations are transferring to Tiggy.

[gt10]

2)Ummm, are we on tiggy or "every other server"? What happens outside of tiggy is absolutely irrelevant when we are discussing a nation that resides in tiggy... In face, read my sig as its somewhat relevant to the discussion. There is no point in bringing up different servers. Live here, live now..
Haven't you been whining this entire thread about how britland has always been hard and they've never been able to get it together?

Why don't you take the advice of the wise sage that you felt deserved the honor of being quoted in your sig. And then go s.tf.u

[iamcris]

1) Its called cohesiveness. The brits from ISY and BB cant just come here and dominate. They need to be able to gel with the brits already here. Your stretching things my friend.

2)Ummm, are we on tiggy or "every other server"? What happens outside of tiggy is absolutely irrelevant when we are discussing a nation that resides in tiggy... In face, read my sig as its somewhat relevant to the discussion. There is no point in bringing up different servers. Live here, live now..

3) Your right, we dont know each other. Perhaps it was a stretch me throwing in the part of you liking easy mode. I dont know you well enough to determine that at all..

All the brits need to be competitive is a good drop kick in the crotch from a real leader.
You inform the world you are here to fight and nothing less.
You die OFTEN, you get back up and you fight more.

When the plan fails you try something new and learn from your mistakes.
You remove yourself from the ground and you fight some more.
You pull the boot out of your throat and you fight some more.
When it seems like it's you against the world you are thankful you got such good odds.
You either fight or you fight.
The creme will rise to the top-eventually.
You celebrate your victories excessively no matter how small and talk about what worked and why and HOW you can GET better.

You have to be crushed before you can know how to fight, it's how this game works. Every single spanish captain on this server who is pvp, rvr, pb ready has been crushed to pieces at some point, same goes for the french and pyrats.


/end peptalk

*edited to add, easy mode ain't always been easy.
Pico

[Virgil Boticelli]

Haven't you been whining this entire thread about how britland has always been hard and they've never been able to get it together?

Why don't you take the advice of the wise sage that you felt deserved the honor of being quoted in your sig. And then go s.tf.u

When did I say Brits were never able to get it together. I don't care about passed britland it's here and now that matters..

PS.....


















NO U!

[Ruckuz]

who is on Tiggy brit that was on BB as brits? What socs? Most socs that were Brit aren't intact to my knowledge...

[Horatio Wilberforce]

All the brits need to be competitive is a good drop kick in the crotch from a real leader.
You inform the world you are here to fight and nothing less.
You die OFTEN, you get back up and you fight more.

When the plan fails you try something new and learn from your mistakes.
You remove yourself from the ground and you fight some more.
You pull the boot out of your throat and you fight some more.
When it seems like it's you against the world you are thankful you got such good odds.
You either fight or you fight.
The creme will rise to the top-eventually.
You celebrate your victories excessively no matter how small and talk about what worked and why and HOW you can GET better.

You have to be crushed before you can know how to fight, it's how this game works. Every single spanish captain on this server who is pvp, rvr, pb ready has been crushed to pieces at some point, same goes for the french and pyrats.


/end peptalk

*edited to add, easy mode ain't always been easy.
Pico

Pico, you sir are a scholar and a gentleman! Spain is lucky to have you around.

I couldn't agree with your post more if I wrote it myself!

/moarpeanutbutter

[Horatio Wilberforce]

who is on Tiggy brit that was on BB as brits? What socs? Most socs that were Brit aren't intact to my knowledge...

Since you spent such a short time as a BB Brit I can understand how you would fail to recognize your former mates. I on the other hand, see people daily from BB Brit and I'm sure they are all as valuable to Tiggy as they were on BB.

Half the reason, I've felt the need to reply in this thread is out of defense for the Brits I have sailed with in the past who I feel have been given short-shrift.

Must everything be about flaming with you? From my perspective it seems that way. You have a lot more to offer than that bud.