Why are Britain in the lead?

[Xaphod]

Britain and France both start with 15 ports after Ceyenne was gifted to the british.
Spain and Pirates both have 14.
All nations have 20 starting points except France.. this was initially to offset the fact that the french nation had 2 more ports, but now they don't.
Spain and Pirate should have 10 starting points, Britain and France should have none, so everyone has 150 points.

[Gameking]

Honestly I think ALL British sails should have text burned into them saying:


"Yes, I chose the British bandwagon because I am a sheep, Bah Bah"

:yar:

[Flimgoblin]

says the pirate ;)

I chose the british bandwagon coz I'm a limey brit :p

Back on topic - seems fair to me.

[isildur]

Huh, you're right. Weird. I'll change the balancing values this week. Everyone should start with the same number of points.

[Piroko Pearlblade]

"Yes, I chose the British bandwagon because I am a sheep, Bah Bah"


I chose the British because I agree with Congress that we should be calling them "Freedom Fries".

[Sykomyke421]

Huh, you're right. Weird. I'll change the balancing values this week. Everyone should start with the same number of points.

Woo hoo! Not that it matters anyways, I'm sure we'll get a new patch before official launch so as long as everything's gravy by the time the 22nd rolls around I'm happy!

[Lloyd]

Honestly I think ALL British sails should have text burned into them saying:


"Yes, I chose the British bandwagon because I am a sheep, Bah Bah"

:yar:

I always played a "british privateer" back in the days of Pirates!. That's where my allegiance lies and it will always be this way.

For Queen and Fatherland!

[Captain Lackey]

"Yes, I chose the British bandwagon because I am a sheep, Bah Bah"

In 14 years of pirate games, I've almost always been either British or Dutch. Occasionally French. Never Spanish (except occasionally in SMP!, where nation doesn't really matter, and you can start with a rather rare ship if you do it right)

Anyways, always go for the Spanish.

Besides, out of ALL the societies I heard recruiting over a period of 5 months, the best one for me was British.

[Horatio Hawke]

Honestly I think ALL British sails should have text burned into them saying:


"Yes, I chose the British bandwagon because I am a sheep, Bah Bah"

:yar:

Better to be sheep than grass... Which no doubt will be burned into yours.

S!

[Capt Lynch]

Well, we all are. We are all Britons. And I am your king.

[Ekibiogami]

I chose the British because I agree with Congress that we should be calling them "Freedom Fries".

LOL this is OLD France... Befor it Sucked :P
And you Dirty redcoats are Bleading us Colonists Dry >:(
For France.

[Blahonga]

Well, we all are. We are all Britons. And I am your king.

King of the who?
I didn't vote for you! :D

[Gatecrasher]

King of the who?
I didn't vote for you! :D

You don't vote for kings.

[kungtotte]

Better to be sheep than grass... Which no doubt will be burned into yours.

S!
That's why I'm going 100% pirate. It is better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep! :yar:

[keline]

Honestly I think ALL British sails should have text burned into them saying:


"Yes, I chose the British bandwagon because I am a sheep, Bah Bah"

:yar:

10k db say you have black sails.

[Malcolm Grae]

This thread delivers.

There do seem to be a LOT of Brits about.

[Rook]

This thread was saved by the Monty Python reference, good call!

Pirates will be the true sheep. Though the Brits will have formidable numbers, the servers will be crawling with rats once the flood gates open.

We’re going to be up to our arm pits in Sparrows and every variation of the spelling you can possibly think of.

[JoeCold]

*sigh* I went British because I genuinely prefer the history of the nation over the others, particulary in the time period the game covers. But, I specifically picked a server that looked like it wouldn't be British dominated (based on where the Beta societies said they were going) because I didn't want to be on the team with the distinct advantage.

Unfortunately, it looks like Brits still have the stronger numbers anyway. *sigh again*

[Rook]

Don't sweat it. I'm still server hopping. I figure bythe end of next week I'll actually figured out where and what flag I'm playing under. I'm sort of eye balling Spain right now. I figure they may have a slightly weaker economy due to lower numbers, but the community may be a bit tighter.

[Caldes]

If your really wanting to sail English with a lower than normal English pop, try Rakham. I think we have the most Spaniards of any server, and a fair share of Pirates. Have yet to see England in 'moderate'.

Course, once the 22nd rolls around, though, all bets are off.

[Sykomyke421]

Don't sweat it. I'm still server hopping. I figure bythe end of next week I'll actually figured out where and what flag I'm playing under. I'm sort of eye balling Spain right now. I figure they may have a slightly weaker economy due to lower numbers, but the community may be a bit tighter.

If you really want a fun time go play French on Bonny. I think french are the least populated of any nation and bonny isn't exactly very popular.

[Rook]

If your really wanting to sail English with a lower than normal English pop, try Rakham. I think we have the most Spaniards of any server, and a fair share of Pirates. Have yet to see England in 'moderate'.

Course, once the 22nd rolls around, though, all bets are off.

Yea, Garbad has a following over there, for good reason. I have a pirate there now, but I'm thinking of switching up since I was Spanish in beta. Unfortunatly, I'll be on travel on the whole wek of the 22nd, so even with the head start, I'm still going to find myself a week behind unless I stay on my current character. Ah well, no worries, its only a game.

[Sykomyke421]

Yea, Garbad has a following over there, for good reason. I have a pirate there now, but I'm thinking of switching up since I was Spanish in beta. Unfortunatly, I'll be on travel on the whole wek of the 22nd, so even with the head start, I'm still going to find myself a week behind unless I stay on my current character. Ah well, no worries, its only a game.

Yea no worries. Just level at your own pace.

Personally I think it would be funny if in every game the VERY first person to hit level cap would get a message that is sent to them (and possibly the entire server...) that says...

Congratulations! <Name> has reached level <level cap> first! He(You) can put down the bottles of Vault and Red Bull, take the tape off your eyelids, and take a shower now!

[warian]

Huh, you're right. Weird. I'll change the balancing values this week. Everyone should start with the same number of points.
Thank god he made this thread... I figured FLS would already know of this.

[Gameking]

10k db say you have black sails.

You lost 10kDB...... I have blood red sails:yar:

[Lorvaton]

Don't think this has been fixed yet on Roberts

[Communism]

This better be fixed by Tuesday!!!! :O

[AC2]

*bump*

Brits: 170
France: 150
Pirates: 160
Spain: 160


still not fixed

[stover4444]

sigh.... =(

[Ombre de Lune]

Huh, you're right. Weird. I'll change the balancing values this week. Everyone should start with the same number of points.

someone isn't doing its job

[SWBgHz]

Huh, you're right. Weird. I'll change the balancing values this week. Everyone should start with the same number of points.

This was pointed out early in pre boarding (1/8) and still no action. Since time matters how much of a win will be handed to the most populous nation before you get around to correcting it?

Absolutely inexcusable FLS.

[Roukai]

Huh, you're right. Weird. I'll change the balancing values this week. Everyone should start with the same number of points.

And this is why i'm now an FLS fanboy.. thanks very much Isildur. I say this because he has said 2 things. 1) he's aware of it thanks to a poster on the same day 2) he's doing something about it.

[bonelizzard]

Absolutely inexcusable FLS.

i dont see them making excuses... they seem to pretty honest when they fuk up.

[SWBgHz]

Look at the date he said it (01-08-2008, 09:44 PM)- back on the second day of the pre order - I like FLS as much as anyone but he said it would be fixed that week and now two + weeks later it is not fixed and victory points are going to Britain because of it.

[Razor Jaxx]

Bump - any ETA on this?

We want our 10 points back :p

[SWBgHz]

I will second that bump - particularly as a pirate it is hard to get wins later so we don't want to be gimped early on.

[Olblach]

Yeah true Pirates should get a bonus too. English have the hardest strategic position so they should keep these 20 points, but pirates are disadvantaged as well.

TBH I don't think it will really matter, since I expect the end game difference to be a lot more than 20 points, the balancing should be done in terms of ports/resources if necessary.

[ummax]

Huh, you're right. Weird. I'll change the balancing values this week. Everyone should start with the same number of points.


The brits are still winning on our server and haven't taken a single port :)

[Lorvaton]

Would be nice to know if this problem remains because they forgott about it or because it was hard to fix and it's not being a prioroty.

[Kain90]

I'm sure they're working on it.

[Olblach]

Look at the map, Spanish take Yucatan and what can do the English colonists now? It surely needs rebalancing but it's not 20 points that will change much. About Pirates, I've been told they already go to sieges in defiants so they don't need extra points imho.

[Athlen]

*BUMP* Cause this still needs fixing;) Or another response from the devs...

Vox Dargard

[Lorvaton]

I'm sure they're working on it.

I hope so too.

It's not really a big deal right now but I'm guessing the longer time passes the more british players will be upset when they thought they where leading and they get points removed from them.

[SWBgHz]

I dunno - it seems a pretty big deal to me that for no reason other than some sloppy code a competition starts out unfairly.

[Captain_Korr]

I think part of it has to do with the fact that Britan and Spain start out with 1 more port than do France and the Pirates.

[Caldes]

I think part of it has to do with the fact that Britan and Spain start out with 1 more port than do France and the Pirates.

Read the first post- it explains why the points are there, what they were supposed to balance, and why they are now imbalanced.

[Lorvaton]

Perhaps it's been fixed on some servers but some where forgotten?

On Roberts brits still have 20 starting points.

[Razor Jaxx]

Still not fixed - how hard can that be? ^^

[SWBgHz]

Still not fixed - how hard can that be? ^^

Despite the fact that I am certain it is not 'hard' it should have been done regardless. RvR is supposed to be important but by letting this go as long as they have FLS has basically broadcast their own system as bogus. FLS needs to get on the ball big time, since open beta their 'performance' with development (managing and taking the game forward) has been absolutely terrible.