EDIT: submitted this post before I was done

Basically one person hacked the PS3, SONY made quite an interesting reply, and a group of hackers who called themselves "legion" (lol...) attacked SONY which has resulted in the current events.

http://www.vg247.com/2011/05/04/sony...on-psn-breach/

How does that make SOE challenging some lunatics?


Because I warn you before I shoot a bullet into your head makes you fail something? Or even challenging me?

When will SOE's services be back online?

We have been working around the clock to restore operations as quickly as possible, and we expect to have some of our games and services up and running soon. However, we want to be very clear that we will only restore operations when we believe that the network is secure.




last update they put out yesterday morning

Now you're just arguing for the sake of it, the fact is SONY shouldn't be challenging "lunatics" to begin with, and no business is perfect. The original attack on SONY was to prove some kind of point, related to corporate abuse of peoples details which is in some way true.

But in different news - how exactly are apple calling this a bug? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13292313

I don't know what universe you are living in, but on Earth customers will sue the bank if it loses their stuff.

And in a matter of fact, there is no single word about Sony being warned in advance as you claim - not that it changes anything about Sony being a victim of a criminal attack.

SONY aren't really the victims, the people whom have lost information are.

well right now im not real happy with Sony myself =-(

Honestly, if you cannot distinguish the difference between loss and theft, victim and attacker, you should seek a specialist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDPaFUfcmLg just about the not being warned bit, this was just before they got hit hard.

So basically these are cyber terrorists? I sure hope they are able to find out who they are with the end result being very long prison sentences.

70 billion dollar a year industry and can't defend against a poor 1 thousand dollar a month hacker?

Want to know what they use your money on?

Not securing your information for 1.

Actually the large 'hactivist' group referring to is called "Anonymous." They typically leave behind a calling card saying "We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget" to take credit for their cyber attack - usually large corporate and politically motivated.

However, Anonymous has publicly refuted the claim that it was them. If it was, they probably would have publicly taken credit. So, the attack was either in an 'un-organized' form (members of anonymous whom worked together outside the scope of the entity) or someone tried to frame them. Bottom line, security experts still indicate that despite the flaws in the Sony defenses, it takes a tremendous amount of expertise and coordination to pull something off of this magnitude.

But, Sony has a sh*tpot full of insurance...so they will not bear the brunt of the hack costs...moreso their long term profits are at risk. Those that insure or re-insure the platform will probably fork over $20-$50 per account in costs...or $2BN+ ...also credit card companies themselves may have to deal with the collateral fallout through cancelled accounts, unrecoverable expenses related to protested charges...et al.

Thats a monstrous cyber attack folks.

These servers aren't coming back anytime soon. Besides implementing fixes, patches, and new security measures AND then testing testing testing; they will also "likely" need to get satisfy from different business counterparties that have a stake in this...IE trade commissions, insurance companies, etc etc etc...

We shall see how much influence Sony execs have I suppose, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

Woops...sorry for the long post.

Temporary ?
Looks like the SOE crew are all down with scurvy. Feel sorry for the FLS people having to put up with the smell.

Good time to jump ship methinks.
Im gona take a good few months break, may be all fixed by then.
Good luck everyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDPaFUfcmLg

They obviously made some attacks on sony, and they clearly said the worst is yet to come, the current situation looks worse.

EDIT: and if it was them they are hardly going to admit to it, SONY are taking serious legal action, they are a group of nerds not dedicated terrorists out to destroy the infidels, there could be some serious time involved if the culprits are found.

This isn't about victims and attackers. What you fail to understand is that someone was responsible for keeping something safe. They promised to keep it safe, and couldn't. Of course it's their fault.

Already explained in my previous post.

They did not guarantee the safety, period.

Yes, they did. Read their EULA. Read everything they say when you purchase anything from their company with your credit card. They promise to take every step necessary to keep your information safe.

SOE is precisely just that: a company that sells safety, both to its immediate and indirect customers.

Provide a quote...

nvm, I did it for you:

12. We cannot ensure that your private communications and other personally identifiable information will not be disclosed to third parties. For example, we may be forced to disclose information to the government or third parties under certain circumstances, or third parties may unlawfully intercept or access transmissions or private communications.




First I thought people are trolling only but now...

Oh they did for sure...the first customer account attack on PSN was them. The followup attacks (with the credit cards) is the question, to which they have denied. They (as a group) dont hack credit cards for obvious reasons...though maybe some of the membership followed on their own paths of destruction:yar:

Sony will be going all out thats for sure! They are a monster corporation and will pull out all the stops and hire nothing but the best counsel.

How quickly the company can get their cash streams flowing again on their gaming platforms is the main thing while they try and cover up the black-eye they have just been given...crazy shiz...

They attack and promise more is to come

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDPaFUfcmLg

Sony Replies

http://ca.kotaku.com/5790405/sonys-h...k-an-annoyance

Sony isn't laughing anymore... sadface :(

http://www.vg247.com/2011/05/04/sony...on-psn-breach/

If you look at these links, it is pretty clear what has happened. Ty says that they weren't organised enough, but it's entirely possible that all of those hackers attacking a single network could have found a serious weakness, or of course finally focussed the attack.

Either way SONY are completely responsible, as they didn't take the original threats seriously, and now all of their customers are suffering, and of course as TY also said, the banks and insurance companies.

I just really hope nobody has lost money over this, we have all lost our details, I was one of the ones lucky enough to cancel mine in time.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe account info such as usernames, passwords, and email addresses were stored in plain text in the Sony database.

This is hardly keeping our personal information safe.

I suppose there is no implied security for your credit card information when you use it at the mall either? I guess since the guy who repaired your car didn't have you sign a form he can freely distribute your personal and credit card information?

Just because it doesn't say it doesn't mean there is isn't an implied level of service.

Sony was given credit card and personal data and it is their responsibility to protect it. Sony is at fault. Were they negligent in their security is the important question.

Do you have their contracts with the credit card companies? I bet they signed something that they would protect cardmembers information etc.

Passwords were hashed, the rest were not. Standard procedure.

I work in a small Government Department and our standard procedure is to encrypt any data that contains personal details of our clients.

How you handle personal data is determined by law and they did protect it like any other company would do with the same type of data.

So far there is no sign that they were careless with their security measures thus they are not to be blamed and share the responsibility for the attack.


Saying that they are to blame because they were hacked is stupid, no security system is immune to breach.

It seems you're purposely avoiding my reply toward the top of this page, or you wouldn't still be attempting to protect SONY... which is pretty pointless anyway.

From what I can see you are selecting posts you think you can attempt to argue with, which either makes you a SONY employee or a troll. :)

"Unfortunately, we are unable to bring SOE services back online today. We regret the downtime." SOE by Twitter

me thinks that by the time sony finally does start to restore some services, Pirates Of The Burning sea will be in its casket waiting to be buried.

too bad, was a good game, too bad FLS teamed with sony.

my BURNING question, why cant fls just do everything them self?


ahh well, maybe i wait maybe i wont. never know

It seems they just didn't want to deal with the payment related side of things, SOE manage everything related to subs and purchases. Apparently it would have took a lot of work to implement these things themselves.

EDIT: this was answered by two different FLS employees a few pages ago, might want to take a look for yourself, hope this helps :)

Such a statment from SOE basically means that they intended to bring the servers back online TODAY, but couldn't do it(?)...does this mean that they might bring it up tomorrow, or over the weekend?

I'm crossing my fingers!!

Pool
 

I think we should have a pool on the date and time that Pirates of the Burning Seas will be back online to play and the person getting the closest to being correct wins something like Dablooms of Burning Sea Notes. This will give us something to do and stay in the loop.

I love Pools.

The problem with database encryption is that it does not provide much more security at the end. I think even Sarbanes-Oxley is a bit reluctant in this matter.

It does make sense on the clients and removable devices where you have limited users and keys per device but that isn't the case of database encryption where key distribution and storage will become a real pain.

Good ask guy,
But, i don't idea the comeback this server. The information available in twitter are very short... =/

Are updates only =/²

Services should be back on Friday or Saturday.

Qeunta how do you know that servers will be back up friday or sayurday im curiouse tho sony has told us soon for 5 days now and nothing so im just asking

Because I know people.

ok all we can do is wait and see i for one an hoping the server comes back up i cant wait to get back into the game in my opinion POTBS is one of the best games out there and the population will come back

I hope that you're right ...