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http://ingame.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...attack-on-sony

Hackers are planning a third "major" attack on Sony websites, according to a Cnet report. The allegation comes from an observer in a chat channel used by hackers, who saw discussion of a plan to launch an attack this weekend. The witness relayed the info to the tech news site.

The hackers allegedly already have access to some of Sony's servers, and plan to go public with the personal information they find in their attack. It is not clear from the report whether or not these hackers are part of the Anonymous group. Whoever they are, it is not likely that they're acting as part of the group, as Anonymous has stated it was not involved in the recent attacks on PlayStation Network and Sony Online Entertainment servers.

Hit the links below for more on this ongoing drama.



at this rate we will never be back on

Oh give me a break already...this is worse than Y2K for crying out loud!!:P

The slime-ball lawyers are coming out from under their rocks:



– May 2, 2011
For Immediate Release
Canadian Sony PlayStation Network Class Action

Sony has announced that personal information for 77 million PlayStation and Qriocity users
worldwide, 1 million of which are in Canada, has been hacked. It has been alleged that Sony
was aware that such information had been stolen but failed to advise users of PlayStation and Quriocity in a timely fashion. Sony has acknowledged that stolen information may include users’ names, addresses (city, province, postal code), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID and user profile data, including purchase and usage history and billing address (city, province, postal code), and the subscriber's PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers. The same data with respect to a dependent may also have been obtained.

Sony is not able to say whether user credit card or debit card information was also taken.
Sony has acknowledged and apologized for breach. To date, the only compensation Sony has
offered is 30 or 60 day free memberships on its PlayStation network.

While Sony has advised American users about the availability of free credit reports, it has yet to advice Canadian users about credit reports.

The Toronto law firm McPhadden Samac Tuovi LLP has commenced a proposed class action
against Sony Japan, Sony USA, Sony Canada and other Sony entities (“Sony”) for the breach of privacy. The lawsuit claims damages in excess of $1 billion, which includes having Sony pay the costs of credit monitoring services and fraud insurance coverage for two years.

The plaintiff in the action is 21 year old Mississauga resident who has been an avid PlayStation user for years. Natasha Maksimovic said: “If you can’t trust a huge multi-national corporation like Sony to protect your private information, who can you trust. It appears to me that Sony focuses more on protecting its games than its PlayStation users.”

http://twitter.com/#!/SonyOnline

well let's hope for saturday then... but mentioned earlier in another post... doubt they will go online when most ppl are off work... soo i guess sometime next week maybe ......

My bet is it will be back online within hours/days as I am sure they indeed work around the clock to be back as soon as possible.

Props to Sony for handling the situation and so far they were really fast in their actions.

sure, e.g. a year has 365 days so it would be within days

Assuming SOE are based in the US, that was written yesterday, so the servers could be back up today(Friday).

hehehe typical went to check the SOE site this morning for news and the site wasnt there anymore >...<

The msg on twitter was posted 5 h earlier than my post in here ... so that would still make it friday in the us or !!!

Nar...U.S. is 5 hours behind GMT atm and given the last message went out 10hrs ago or 2.20am GMT, then it would have been around 9.20pm Thursday in the U.S. when it went out not Friday.

So it 'could' be up today but either way I guess there'll be another update sometime within the next several hours (today Friday).

Well, it was posted 1am Friday British time(BST, not GMT), which would make it Thursday evening in the US.

So if they thought there was a chance for getting it running yesterday...... :D

Yeah I just checked and it's flipped to 11 hours ago so yes you're right....it went out around 1.20am (Friday morning British time), and Thursday evening U.S. time...lol

Is that not what I said? lol

For those who followed Sony's communication about the PSN, how was it ? Did thez say "ok it'll be shut down for 2 around 2 weeks" ? Or was it just like what we're living now ? ...no ETA, and an update everyday to say it's not yet done ?

lol, I was replying to Mr Galant and you posted between that :P

But yeah, we said the same thing :D

Okay David we agree...lol

Anyway, since we are now embarking on the psychological aspects of Sony messages, having agreed their timing.....would you agree that when their previous message says "we were unable".......this would tend to make the reader presume they had actually tried to get the game up but failed, as opposed to not being in a position to?

For if they tried to get the game up 2 days ago (we were unable), and yesterday they 'are unable', then it should surely mean they tried again yesterday and therefore (thinks), they 'should' be trying again TODAY! lmao I mean surely we are not too far away from having live pirates again? surely???

Latest:


Full letter: Posted 6th May - http://blog.eu.playstation.com/

In the coming days, we will restore service to the networks and welcome you back to the fun. I wanted to personally reach out and let you know that we are committed to serving you to the very best of our ability, protecting your information better than ever, and getting you back to what you signed up for – all the games and great entertainment experiences that you expect from Sony.

With best regards,
Howard Stringer

It sounds like the weekend is a washout already.

I never used the word blame once in my comments.

Is there a difference between bearing a responsibility for failure and being blamed?

The action.

Sorry? Can you elaborate?

Sony's fault is that they didn't protect the data.

Hacker's fault is that they attacked Sony.

Is there anything else unclear?

Today our global network and security teams at Sony Network Entertainment and Sony Computer Entertainment began the final stages of internal testing of the new system, an important step towards restoring PlayStation Network and Qriocity services.

As previously mentioned, we’ve been working around the clock to rebuild the network and enhance protections of your personal data. It’s our top priority to ensure your data is safe when you begin using the services again.

We understand that many of you are eager to again enjoy the PlayStation Network and Qriocity entertainment services that you love, so we wanted you to be aware of this milestone and our progress. We will provide additional updates as soon as we can

so its looking like today or tom when we will be on but i wouldnt hold my breath if i was you

The action. One is passive, the other is active.

hoping servicew comes up today but right now its like a coin toss at the moment over at soney like heads we turn the services on tails we leave it off

Yes, that is the only difference I see as well. It does not change anything about what I said though so I was wondering...seems like hairsplitting to me.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/22729...rt_claims.html


according to this another attack comming soon

I wrote a rather large reply explaining how long this could actually take and exactly what they are doing.
Unfortunatly, it was deleted without notification.

edit: I have tryed writing the reply over and over again and it has been deleted over and over again. I am giving up.

My dad occasionally works with a division of microsoft as he manages an IT department for a hospital group and according stats, Microsoft is hacked almost 3000 times per day. Now everyone is blaming SONY for this or blaming FLS for not finding a better company but think about it! Yes I am mad because the servers are down, I wont deny it. Think about facts though, if Microsoft gets hacked 3000 times a day I bet Sony gets hacked at least 2000 times a day, They just happened to get hacked by a serious threat this time and I am actually confident in Fls' choice for SOE as a support company. If FLS were to switch to another company, who is to say this thing couldn't happen again? EVERY SINGLE DATABASE IN THE WORLD...CAN...BE...HACKED. Computer security systems have holes in them and hackers know how to find them. These hackers just happened to try and find a door this time and they succeeded. Some have more security than others and Sony I'm sure keeps up to date with security ok? No one but the hackers is to blame for any of this!!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!!!!!!

Thank you.

I'd say:

Personally, I consider SONY responsible for the data loss. Someone was incompetent or not at the top of their game and, when you sell security, you need to be reliable.

However, they are managing this well, I believe.

Mind posting these stats that show MS getting hacked 3000 times a day? or SONY getting hacked 2000 times a day for that matter :)

Just think what would happen if FLS were not with Sony but some smaller company and something like this would happened. How long do you think the outage would take? Less than what Sony will need? I doubt it...

hacking attempts maybe? Or virus attacks? Such things happen all computers all the time.

I think he meant attempts, lol I seriously doubt MS suffer from 3000 successful attempts a day, or SONY 2000, if that true they wouldn't be able to keep services up for more than 5 minutes :D

Do you work for SONY? I'm seriously wondering there.

By the way, since the process would probably be the same but with many less servers, imo, it would take them less time to do it. What takes long is that SONY has 70m accounts to handle and possibly a legion of servers to verify, inspect, clean, repatch, etc.

Successful attempts...There are many varying degrees of hacks...some are non-malicious while others like the one with Sony was a deliberate attack. Part of my dad's job is figuring out if the successful hack was merely a security breach or if it was intentional for the purpose of taking something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_(computer_security)

Take a look for yourself.

Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information, neither is a guy telling me his dad does this and that, and varying degrees of hacks wasn't really my question. I'm asking you where there are stats showing that MS is hacked 3000 times a day, respectively.

3000 attempts in a day is very low for large companies. They are constantly getting hammered. Financial institutions are even worse than companies like Microsoft and Sony, unless like now, a company like Sony brings unwanted attention to itself.....Heck just a few weeks ago a CEO said to bring it on.....points for whomever guesses the company.