Career Change suggestions

[DerHuhnTeufel]

Naval Officer Thoughts - With LR Maneuver being on a fast re-use timer and Scatter shot giving a turning bonus, this class is now as maneuverable as the CT. They are also the tankiest class, and the fastest class from 75-165 while speed increase and LR:Speed are up. This effectively creates a class with no real weakness that can either run from or catch just about any other boat out there.

Last Resort: Speed -> 4% Beam Reach -> 0%, -20% Sail resistance

Speed Increase -> 4% Beam Reach -> 0% Beam reach

Scatter Shot -> .5% Turn rate -> .5% Sail resistance

Defender: Resist -> 14% Damage Resistance -> 14% Armor/Structure, 10% Sail resistance

Acceleration Increase -> 25% Acceleration Toggle, 20 morale, 30 second re-use

Rake -> Reset Timer 2 minutes -> 4 minutes

Emergency repairs -> Armor/Hull Repair 20% -> 22.5%. Will no longer strip debuffs.

Break morale -> Must be fired from a broadside to a broadside.

Privateer Thoughts - Since the privateer never really changed from the "glass" aspect of "glass cannon", I thought they could use some dps. They are also lacking in acceleration and maneuverability, but swapping unpredictabilities can leave them vulnerable.

Unpredictability: Sail Defense -> +15% Acceleration,

Expert Rigging -> 5% Sail Integrity -> 0%, +10% Acceleration

Rebuild Ship -> +5% sail integrity

Maneuver -> 20% Turn rate, 20 morale toggle. 30 second re-use.

Rebuild timer 4 minutes -> 5 Minutes. Repairs 10% structure and 10% + 2 cannons per battery.

All or Nothing Shot -> Desperation fire. 30% damage bonus, 90 second re-use, only usable below 82% armor. This gives the privateer a much needed re-usable spike.

Hidden reserves 8 minutes -> 4 minutes.

Death's Embrace -> Self resistance -4% -> -2%

Demoralize 3 minute duration, 2 minute reuse -> 3 minute re-use, 2 minute duration. This is a very powerful debuff for 100% uptime.

Burst of Speed -> Reuse 150 seconds -> 300 seconds, 20 second duration -> 30 second duration. Every other speed increase has significant penalties, this has a shorter duration.

Privateer career +1 Accuracy -> 3% damage

Freetrader Thoughts- I felt that this class was too good for 1 v 1s, but too vulnerable to being spiked out. By giving them access to a weaker version of evasion but removing some resistance from determination and their repairs, I think this accomplishes a good balance.

Evasion -> +10% Damage resistance, 3 minute re-use -> 4 minute re-use

Deter Pursuit -> Must be used from stern or broadside cannons

Determination Grapple Defense +15 -> +0, Damage Resistance 15% -> 7.5%, 350 yard range -> 500 yard range

Rebuild Rig -> Remove all non-repair bonuses

Plug Leaks -> Remove all non-repair bonuses

Mercenaries -> 10% Battle speed -> 0%, 10 grappling Defense -> 0

Expensive Ship - +4% Battle Speed

Defense -> +4% Battle Speed

Economic Specialist -> +2% Battle Speed

Sail handling drills -> 7.5% Turn rate -> 5% turn rate, 7.5% Acceleration -> 5% Acceleration, Defense 2 -> 1, Broad Reach 2% -> 1%. Swaps places with Tax Evasion.

Tax Evasion -> -50% Tax rate -> -60% Tax rate

Buccaneer Changes - I feel that this class is actually fairly well balanced, though perhaps they can turn a little too quickly, and are too reliant on scrapper for their speed.

Protect: +6 defense -> 5% resist, +3 defense. 1 minute duration, 2 minute re-use. This puts it more in line with the NO's guardian.

Maneuver -> Replaced with the CT's "Before the Wind" skill.

Scrapper -> Remove speed bonuses.

Command evasion: Sail defense +3 -> +2

First blow -> Requires 90% armor and sails.

Sweep the Deck 3 minutes -> 4 minutes

Master of Pursuit Accuracy +4 -> +3

Defense Turn bonus 7.5% -> 10%

Bloody Minds Crew Resistance 45% -> 30%.

Cutthroat Changes - I'm not if this class needs to change. It's capable of quite a bit, but any sort of mistake and you really suffer for it. It is perhaps a bit too capable of catching others, but I feel the change to deter pursuit helps with that.

Deter Pursuit -> Must be fired from broadside or stern cannons

Death's Embrace -> -12% Resistance -> -10% resistance. -3% self resist -> -2% Resistance

[Pnakotic]

A few thoughts:

Removing the NOs debuff strip from Emergency Repairs is a bit harsh, given that the class only has one repair and that is its special benefit. And it only strips one debuff. And the NO is the least maneuverable class.

Forcing Break Morale to act on a broadside makes the skill extremely situational. May be a bit too much.

The PT may be better off with +1 passive accuracy than another +3% damage, given that it has relatively few accuracy buffs, but can sustain 32.5% damage all the time.

I also prefer BoS on the current cooldown, but perhaps with 10% less acceleration bonus, if the PT has access to more acceleration from other sources. Or perhaps a duration reduced to 15s, and the same acceleration bonus.

In general, though, the changes look pretty reasonable. I could get behind most of these.

[DerHuhnTeufel]

Originally Posted by Pnakotic Removing the NOs debuff strip from Emergency Repairs is a bit harsh, given that the class only has one repair and that is its special benefit. And it only strips one debuff. And the NO is the least maneuverable class.

The NO is more maneuverable than the privateer in current game, and doesn't give up much at all to gain said maneuverability. They also have "emergency" maneuverability from last stand, and that particular aspect would not change.

To put it in perspective, an NO with LR and Scatter up has 28% turn rate. The CT with sac for victory, rum rations, and their career/passive bonuses has 33%.

Emergency repairs strips 1 speed debuff and 1 disabling debuff, which means shroud + cripple or deter + cripple, then prevents the re-application of said debuffs. It made sense when the NO was not only unmaneuverable, but slow. Now that they are no longer slow (and still would not be with these changes), I don't think it's necessary.

Originally Posted by Pnakotic Forcing Break Morale to act on a broadside makes the skill extremely situational. May be a bit too much.

Maybe, but no more stunboarding. I think it's powerful enough as it prevents people from getting a block, or perhaps from getting the grapple on a group mate since it prevents shots/grappling. Stuns are very powerful and should be extremely situational.

Originally Posted by Pnakotic The PT may be better off with +1 passive accuracy than another +3% damage, given that it has relatively few accuracy buffs, but can sustain 32.5% damage all the time.

The PT has pretty significant bonuses to target tracking and can lower enemy defense by 5 with signals. More damage and maneuverability means they are a more viable brawling class.

Originally Posted by Pnakotic I also prefer BoS on the current cooldown, but perhaps with 10% less acceleration bonus, if the PT has access to more acceleration from other sources. Or perhaps a duration reduced to 15s, and the same acceleration bonus.

I'd rather leave it the way it is and increase the timer. The privateer is not a slow class and does not need to have a speed boost that's twice as effective as every other speed boost, and has no downsides to boot.

[kritikal]

Originally Posted by DerHuhnTeufel The PT has pretty significant bonuses to target tracking and can lower enemy defense by 5 with signals. More damage and maneuverability means they are a more viable brawling class.

Em... yes the Privateer has Bonuses to Target Tracking, however Target Tracking is mostly used when Fighting Opponents at High Speeds, in general sense the Penalites Between Speed Differences when in no way Provides additional Bonuses for shooting at Pirates with Ungodly High Defense.

Signals at -5 Defense.. that is "Lol", the Cutthroat's DTTMH is -5 Defense combined with -2 Accuracy to add even more Irratation when trying to fire at a Cutthroat.

Might I finally State, the Privateer is not a Brawler, it is a Kitier, though it may Bawl, it should be nowhere as effective at this as the Cutthroat.

Some Benefical Bonuses for the Privateer:

Career: Accuracy: +1 ---> +2 Add +3% Damage --- Ride the Wind: Remove OS Speed Bonuse Add +5% Accleration.

Nuju-

[DerHuhnTeufel]

Originally Posted by toanuju281 Em...Nuju-

I'm going to ignore this entire post because you have said this:

Originally Posted by toanuju281 Might I finally State, the Privateer is not a Brawler, it is a Kitier, though it may Bawl, it should be nowhere as effective at this as the Cutthroat.

Which has to be the most incorrect statement I've ever seen in regards to class purpose.

[elessaria]

Originally Posted by DerHuhnTeufel Naval Officer Thoughts - With LR Maneuver being on a fast re-use timer and Scatter shot giving a turning bonus, this class is now as maneuverable as the CT.

I have a lot of respect for you Blue, but I read this and gave up...

[santoser]

I agree with some changes but not all of them.

I don't think the NO is that good in manuevering specially on 1 vs 1 when i get rake and slaughteir their crew on them!

If you gona change NO's rake you have to change all of them not only for NOs, and No's only have one skill repair so i think it's fair giving them the strip debuff thing.
When i was a NO, Break moral was a way to prevent a guy from spiking my butt, wish sometimes requires using my butt guns (but that is just me) don't know about the rest of the players.

Don't have much to say about the privs, cause i never had one, but from experience fighting them in 1 vs 1, they defeneatly need a tiny buff, but not much or they will turn op op again.

FT's - Nerf them.... that's all!

Bucc - Just a tiny nerf but not has much has the Ft

CT - is balanced along the NO in my opinion, i can leave with that deter change since i don't use it anyway, might prevent some ganks, but don't forget that the majority use cut shroud and not deter!
About death's embrace i don't agree with that speacially if i'm fighting a group that has 4 macedons!

[MuhammedWasRight]

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[DerHuhnTeufel]

Originally Posted by elessaria I have a lot of respect for you Blue, but I read this and gave up...

As stated earlier, they can get 28% compared to the CT's 33%, and it's very easy to swap maneuver on and off to keep the structure damage to a minimum. Combined with their already highest acceleration bonuses it's just over the top. The class needs to have some weakness. Really, it's only losing 8% from scatter shot, but you won't be able to toggle maneuver on and off as needed, you'll have to actually think about using it.

Originally Posted by santoser I don't think the NO is that good in manuevering specially on 1 vs 1 when i get rake and slaughteir their crew on them!

Unless that NO has FG&C, at which point neither one of those is going to do anything significant to their crew. Or if they pop their crew recovery.

Originally Posted by santoser If you gona change NO's rake you have to change all of them not only for NOs

I did.

Originally Posted by santoser When i was a NO, Break moral was a way to prevent a guy from spiking my butt

It's used for a lot of things, but I don't feel it's balanced in it's current form. It allows the NO to make mistakes like you just said, where you let someone on your stern, or it allows for easy rageboarding.

The problem I have with the NO right now is that not only are they the best class in a lot of important categories (ranged damage, speed, tanking), they also have the most abilities to make up for a mistake. Last stand, invincible, final defense, break morale. All allow the NO to make significant mistakes and not particularly suffer for it. It's kind of ridiculous to me that they have the combination of best stats and most "escape" options.

[santoser]

TBH the only problem i have with the NO's is the speed! i got a 1 vs 1 in My Slerk vs a mordaunt, and he runned from me at 60% sails!

In my opinion i think it's a bit easy for the NO's to get a semi good fighting specc and still get all the speed skills, but i might be wrong cause i didn't played with my NO after pnp!