Crossteaming (helping an 'enemy' nation)

[Cronic]

Originally Posted by VosperFZ But waht your saying iws not against FLS rules at all so why?

There used to not be seatbelt laws either. Just because there is no rule now, doesn't mean there should not be.
Anyone who has a problem with a rule being implemented is likely part of the problem and only *****d because they will no longer be able to 'cheat' which is what this basically is.

[captain willis]

Originally Posted by Garret There is alot of Crossteaming going on by various Socs in different nations. I would be very interested to get some opinions from the potbs playing public about how they view this practice? To give it a better explanation for those that havent heard the term before, crossteaming is just one name given to the practice of making a deal or alliance with a Soc of another nation, for use in port flips and other occasions where it is helpfull to not be attacked by Pirates (or dons or french ect). So other than [one or more pirate and don socs] helping the French there are also other occurrences of societies giving each other peace (or alliance) outside of the mechanics of the game which it has to be argued has an unbalancing effect on our beloved server perhaps? Please do chime in here to share your views on this subject, do you think its all fair in love and war? or maybe you think its treacherous and underhanded? maybe you want to say nation players should play just for their own nation and never to help other nations? please share your thoughts. =)

Hello And Harty yo HO ho .
xteaming if you cheat to help another nation win the map = Bad
if you join a Society , to give mov and ships to another nation =BAD
xteaming to use advanced structures your are a crafty Dog = not so BAD
Jumping from Society to Society to steal all you can you should have scarlet letter over head
or full society traitor flag =BAD
Should have public hangings at sunrise, for players that join a society, just to cause trouble
being a A@@hat all the time in nations chat = BAD
Dont be Hatein on the fleets many players dont have 10 to 100 million at their Disposal. like many vets Do. I Have helped over 3000 to 5000 players get to level 50 . =not so bad
players if you want to win pvp you need the best the game has to offer in epic missions loot drops .You can be level 50 in 2 to 3 days but your not ready for pvp .you need skirmish .
have 4rats =1 buc50 + cutt 31 = 1 cut 50 1buc31 rats EU server never played any other nation .
Boris Bagdasarya

[JSponge]

I cringed the day they allowed people to have multiple accounts and the day they introduced "Nation Select"... That being said, I have characters in a few nations now, but...... And, this might shock you.... I would HAPPILY delete/drop all but one nation if they went back to banning people for playing multiple nations.

This is VERY unlikely to happen since this game has a problem with advertising(There is none), and player retention. Therefore, FLS is not going to do ANYTYHING that hurts their base of players.... To be honest, if they did that right now, I think all servers and all nations would read "Light? Ha! Does anyone still play this?" at the login screen.

The sad part of this is the game is actually pretty good. I mean, it's not perfect, but hey.... No game really is, and at least I get the impression that FLS tries. More than I can say for SOE or some other developers.

I guess there's three messages for FLS here:
1. Go back to one nation/one server policy.
2. ADVERTISE your damn game! It's fairly good. You should be proud.
3. Go back to old Av-Com.

LOL ok, that last one was just thrown in for a larf.

[Panta]

Originally Posted by JSponge I cringed the day they allowed people to have multiple accounts and the day they introduced "Nation Select"... That being said, I have characters in a few nations now, but...... And, this might shock you.... I would HAPPILY delete/drop all but one nation if they went back to banning people for playing multiple nations. This is VERY unlikely to happen since this game has a problem with advertising(There is none), and player retention. Therefore, FLS is not going to do ANYTYHING that hurts their base of players.... To be honest, if they did that right now, I think all servers and all nations would read "Light? Ha! Does anyone still play this?" at the login screen. The sad part of this is the game is actually pretty good. I mean, it's not perfect, but hey.... No game really is, and at least I get the impression that FLS tries. More than I can say for SOE or some other developers. I guess there's three messages for FLS here: 1. Go back to one nation/one server policy. 2. ADVERTISE your damn game! It's fairly good. You should be proud. 3. Go back to old Av-Com. LOL ok, that last one was just thrown in for a larf.

Not sure how you would say it in english, in german we would say:
So much spoken out of my heart!!!!

[Coffey]

Originally Posted by JSponge I cringed the day they allowed people to have multiple accounts and the day they introduced "Nation Select"... That being said, I have characters in a few nations now, but...... And, this might shock you.... I would HAPPILY delete/drop all but one nation if they went back to banning people for playing multiple nations. This is VERY unlikely to happen since this game has a problem with advertising(There is none), and player retention. Therefore, FLS is not going to do ANYTYHING that hurts their base of players.... To be honest, if they did that right now, I think all servers and all nations would read "Light? Ha! Does anyone still play this?" at the login screen. The sad part of this is the game is actually pretty good. I mean, it's not perfect, but hey.... No game really is, and at least I get the impression that FLS tries. More than I can say for SOE or some other developers. I guess there's three messages for FLS here: 1. Go back to one nation/one server policy. 2. ADVERTISE your damn game! It's fairly good. You should be proud. 3. Go back to old Av-Com. LOL ok, that last one was just thrown in for a larf.

1.I agree with this point
2.Fls has spoken about advertisement.They are holding off on advertising considerations until they get some of these revamps out of the way. They feel its not a good idea to advertise a game when its in the current state.
They also mention its a cost investment that requires a return like captain club memberships...where they post such cool information as this bit about advertising.
3. lol. and FYI they have also stated that they cant go back to the old avcom

[Coffey]

Originally Posted by VosperFZ But waht your saying iws not against FLS rules at all so why?

You say that its not against the rules at all, but that is a false statement. There specific rules that state when it is not allowed.
What people are trying to say is that even though the rules in some cases allow it it ultimately causes problems in RvR. Why should someone bother to fight to make a comeback for their nation when they can just jump ship to their alts nation that is winning.

[Not Primetime]

Originally Posted by Garret There is alot of Crossteaming going on by various Socs in different nations. I would be very interested to get some opinions from the potbs playing public about how they view this practice? To give it a better explanation for those that havent heard the term before, crossteaming is just one name given to the practice of making a deal or alliance with a Soc of another nation, for use in port flips and other occasions where it is helpfull to not be attacked by Pirates (or dons or french ect). So other than [one or more pirate and don socs] helping the French there are also other occurrences of societies giving each other peace (or alliance) outside of the mechanics of the game which it has to be argued has an unbalancing effect on our beloved server perhaps? Please do chime in here to share your views on this subject, do you think its all fair in love and war? or maybe you think its treacherous and underhanded? maybe you want to say nation players should play just for their own nation and never to help other nations? please share your thoughts. =)

That's not crossteaming. What you highlighted there is the same as non-aggression pacts. France and Spain on other servers and past maps use to help grind down and PvP other nations that were trying to flip Cayo or Havana. These type of agreements have been around since release. These are as others pointed out "Alliances" It's not cheating.

[Squailfish]

Originally Posted by Coffey 1.I agree with this point

One nation per server is win.

Although, going back to the start of the game, there were people with multiple accounts playing the different factions on the same server. Enforcement was pretty severe if you were caught. Rackham Spain was pretty much depopulated when Lina was banned and her society quit en mass.

Originally Posted by Coffey 2.Fls has spoken about advertisement.They are holding off on advertising considerations until they get some of these revamps out of the way. They feel its not a good idea to advertise a game when its in the current state. They also mention its a cost investment that requires a return like captain club memberships...where they post such cool information as this bit about advertising.

David Allen Coe has a song about three little lies. We heard the same song and dance before PnP released.

Originally Posted by Coffey 3. lol. and FYI they have also stated that they cant go back to the old avcom

See above. It is hard to believe everything that comes forth after the failed promises of advertising since the game launched.

I hate to sound negative, because I really like this game. I will begin paying for CC again when the game experience improves.

[Coffey]

Originally Posted by Not Primetime That's not crossteaming. What you highlighted there is the same as non-aggression pacts. France and Spain on other servers and past maps use to help grind down and PvP other nations that were trying to flip Cayo or Havana. These type of agreements have been around since release. These are as others pointed out "Alliances" It's not cheating.

I agree, as long you dont have alts on both France and Spain you should be able to make an alliance. I dont know how Fls would view it if you made such an aliance but did not know the person you made the alliance with had and alt on your nation. I guess they would have to draw the line of wrong doing on the person with the alts since it would be hard to prove you knew anything was wrong.

[Mitchell]

Many players cross team because hauling stinks! It was just easier to create accounts of other nations who were close to your shipbuilding location. Hell we still built boats with high taxes the cost was just added on.

They now instituted the negative rep for trading but smart people had that figured out before it went live.

I am sure a few play both sides in a pb from time to time and that is bad or farming movs etc.

They blew it when they decided to allow it. It ran a ton of players off.

Frankly I am surprised the game is still going. Maybe that is more of a statement of just how bad other new games are.