whats your server like?

[Zobie]

I do not want to get into a war of words with text - as stated i will discuss ,whether in game or on ventrillo , any of the points raised, but your facts are definately misplaced.

I am not sure who you spoke to , but RSS Never wanted to own the port battle to flip TB , yes we wanted it flipped , but as a nation not as a society , for a start we do not have enough level 50's yet to do port battles on our own.

You may state things and people accept it as fact , but i am stating that it is not fact.

I have never seen spam from our society about joining - please let me know what channel that is in as i am pushing to close any more recruitment as we have got too big. If it does in fact occur then i will get it stopped!

As for contention for being sunk , alot of the arguments started after RSS members were left to fend for themselves in Port battles and were not invited to join groups . So if 1 guy is out on his own in a port battle then of course he will be sunk.

In game my name is Zobie Eiboz - as i have stated many times please come and talk to me , either on vent or in game - rant on the forums all you like , but if you (like me) want results and actions and not just complaining - then come and talk to me.

As a society we have only the empowerement of the British nation in our Hearts.

[Arkenor]

If you want to talk, I'm always ready to do so, as indeed I always have been.

I am in game now. also I am on the usual battle Vent, KN's one, and would be most happy to have a quiet little chat with you.

Or you could join the rest of the Nation on our National forum, at www.arksark.org/galley/

Whichever you prefer is fine with me.

[Horatio Hawke]

The only time someone doesn't get a group invite in a PB is normally if they don't ask for one and they aren't on vent or battlechat. I've seen RSS in PBs from time to time and even had them in my groups before. Never had or heard of problems with them in PBs.

Captain Oakshadow speaks for all the Council members and has never shyed away from talking with anyone. He's definately a people person unlike a few of us. If you are willing to discuss the issues and put to rest rumours and really represent the RSS then he's the chap to talk with.

[Ricardo Dantas]

Ah, here it is, the reason why I "re-rolled" pirate...

[Macnova]

I would just like to set the record Straight as to the RSS controversy. We were invited to join the British Counsil and declined as we were just getting our society ramp-ed up for production and didn't have much in the way of LvL 50's to contribute to the cause and felt the matter of the map conquest better left to the more experienced Societies who had fought so hard to win it and were on the verge of doing so. What started the great debate is when we decided to try our hand at getting a port into a pvp situation to study the mechanics of doing so. In our doing so in Turtling Bay we got a fire storm of tell's telling us to not flip the port into contention. We had no intention oor the capibility at the time to do so and we knew that it would not last long in PvP as the spanish and pirates were lowering it as we were raising it. but we did accomplish our training mission and the port reverted to normal in a few hours no harm done. Yes we could have picked a different port it was just close by and was a good exercise , no dastardly plot ws being unleashed on the Counsil just a few guys going to school on the mechanics of port flipping to see what it was about. What got our dander up was the rude demands and unwarrented comments from other society members who claimed to speaking for the Counsil, demanding we not put port into contention and just plain being rude to myself and other RSS members. And of course this prompted a return volly of the same from RSS telling them to mind their own business in no uncertain terms.

A short time later a port battle insued and when my Officers showed up to help the Nation The "leaders" slapped them refused to include them in battle groups and continued with the noob comments. I immediatly contacted Thomas Baines and told him if RSS Officers and men who showed up to Support the nation were ever treated with disrespet ever again that I would show up with a group of 12 RSS at the next port battle and after it started withdraw them from the encounter. It is unacceptable to treat anyone with contempt that shows up to defend the Nation that way and we will not tolerate it in any form. The personal opinions and petty rivalries should be put aside during a PB and any help should be welcomed. After this showing from the "leaders" of the Council soured relations even further.

The final insult was the assisted sinking of RSS ships by pirates with the aid of a here unnamed British Counsil Member. Even though we were at odds personally when he called for help we came to his aid and was rewarded by treachery resulting in RSS ships being sunk and the perpitrator blocking shots and impeeding ship movement wilst never firing a shot in the encounter. And escaping unscathed after the encounter in a close range mele. This could have been misconscrued as just bad luck and would have ended that way and never spoken of again. Had the same scenario not repeated itself again vs RSS members. Same Counsil member flying the Crimson tide sails with the same pirates and the same outcome 2 more times against different RSS members this time low level members who had nothing to do with anything. They answered the call for help by the Counsil member who they thought was in trouble and dispite being only level 15 the 2 waded into the lvl 50 pirates to help the Brit in trouble they had no idea he was a counsil member just a brit in need of help. When they got into battle the Counsil member set sail, (Flying Pirate sails no less) left the encounter and the new players were swiftly abandoned and sunk for their efforts.

Now is there any wonder why the RSS will not trust the council? Or wants nothing to do with them. I know the story has been "Spun" differently and we are the arrogant bad guys who want to ruin the British Chances of winning a second map and will not cooperate with the British Council. But the fact of the matter is its just not true. We are and will remain and Autonomus Society who will continue to aid in port battle. and fight towards a common goal of winning the map. But we will not be dictated as to what we may or may not attack or ask permission from anyone to do so and persue our own goals and interests as we see fit. If in doing so we can help the Council all the better. But our goal is to use the RSS to help the British Nation win the map and fight those who would harm us or our interests. And not to become indentured to a few who have appointed themselves as the unquestioned leaders of the British Nation. Who unilaterally pick targets and demand servitude from all of the British Nation and woe to those who dare question their wisdon and authority. Our Enemies are stronger now and harder to defeat. This Council does the Nation no service trying to brow beat everyone into submission and for a British Counsil member to aid in the sinking of other British Nationals is not acceptable for any reason. And if anyone thinks the RSS will be intimadated into submission by verbal and personal attacks they are sadly mistaken it will not have the desired effect.

We hare here for one reason to fight the enemies of the Nation not the Council or its members but Continued attacks on the RSS or any of its Officers and Men will not be tolerated. We hold most of the Council members in high esteem and we conduct ourselves in Port Battles accordingly and follow the great leadership abilities shown the Port Battle leaders without question. The Council Can be a great unifying force if it decides it wants to be and the vast majority of Council members are as committed to a common goal as we are but a small minority see themselves as the self appointed Lords of the Nation and assume their leadership is best for all the British Nation. Add to them I say The RSS will not be ruled by any one. all of our growing might will be used against the enemies of the nation and for no one factions greater glory. We will sacrifice millions for defence of the Nation but not one dubloon will be paid in hommage or ransom. We have offered the olive branch on two ocasions but they came back with threats and demands. And after the last attacks trust will never be regained unless Justice is served.

The RSS has never asked for help or interfered knowingly in Council matters we are conducting ourselves in the best manner possible that we believe helps our own interests and furthers the Nations. ANd if any other Society would like our help at any time or discuss common goals the RSS will be there but we bow to no one.

Yours Very Truly
Celt Blood

[Stygiana]

Originally Posted by Macnova

Wall of BS text..
Celt Blood

First time I ever see anyone stating that Arkanor demands servitude.
BTW where in this wall of text is that famous ship demanding happening?

Claims that Crimson tide is somehow playing dirty and is out to get easy kills on your guys.

Turn and twist this all you want but the base fact of this all is that the original claim you made is not proven and in fact does not exist.

You and your mob of fresh from bartica l33t dudes are nothing less then a disgrace as of all the people I know at the british side you will be hard pressed to find a more diplomatic and honorable person then Ark. Your claims are insane and tell more about how you think and act then of anything else.

[Pent uP Rage]

Not even a mention of the Windward Squadron of the Night, er...White, I mean.

We're a touch of RP mixed with daily PVP. We usually get the sh*t slung at us for being the "ninjas" as we have players from around the world in nearly every time zone...sans asia. :P (As I'm sure most other societies do).

We're not as big as some of the others, but we still come out swinging with whatever we've got. Whether you're a PT in a Cutter or a NO in a massive slug of an SoL, we've got a place for ya.

www.windwardsquadron.co.uk

[sharkyone]

Well I am glad you are here Celt blood but i seem to remember words from you when asked politly to leave TB alone that you came back with this quote " bugger of we do not answer to anyone and will do as we please" after trying to reason with you and getting further abuse fom you after explaining the reasons for why you were asked to stand down at TB you continued in the same vain when asked by other council members the same thing all initial approaches were cordial but you came back spouting all this stuff about screwing with port battles and such like.

As for PB i can account for at least 2 occasions where i have had Corpse maker in my group in a port battle and he performed all the things asked of him and well.

But I will say this your inital attitude was the big I am we are the best and have 100+ members and will do as we please well to many of us that was one hell of a way to split a nation up.

[Arkenor]

I've had a nice long chat with Captain Blood, and I'm quite sure all this silliness can be put behind us.

Let's all stay frosty like the Fonz, and I'm sure we can learn to get along.

[Frazer MacKenzie]

Speaking as a middle ranking RSS NO I count myself fortunate to have fallen in with this group. Yes, recruitment has been a bit over enthusiastic and haphazard, but the RSS itself has been cleaning house a bit. And we've had players quit. But talk to some of the guys who left. So far there have been two reasons: abuse hurled at them by other societies because of their membership in ours (we're talking "spitting from the deck as they sail past" here...classy!) and because their goals and those of the RSS diverged. At no point did anyone leave claiming that we were a total bunch of bastards. Those departures were amicable and, having had such a good time with those guys in game, I hope they'll come back. And there's no reason to expect they won't someday. After all, the core of people that make up the RSS are a pretty decent bunch and damned good fun to game with. But they're only human...in other words they respond to baiting and, under pressure, will say things ill advisedly. I myself have been heard to say "damn the British Council! I never voted for them." This is perfectly natural...when one is starting out and bewildered by all that's going on one instinctively supports the "in group" and attacks anyone who looks threatening. And so I did it. And now I don't. Why? Not because of any specific directive from our leadership, but just because I listened to them as they quietly went on doing what they were doing all along: learning the game, making plans (and mistakes), trying to improve the Nation. Sure, we want to keep control of our internal economy - we only just got it running and it threatens to blow up on us from time to time and consequently needs careful tending - but the current mood in the RSS is one of striving to get better so we can serve the nation better. That HAS to be good for the server. Yes, we take pride in sending people to Port Battles. But not because it proves how "fantastic" we are...but because it means we're doing our duty. It makes me want to try harder. It certainly makes me want to keep playing. And that kind of thing HAS to be good for the game.