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Old 05-19-2008, 12:55 PM
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It's very simple, scale the unrest gain with the amount of people online on the defending nation. If the defender has only a few people on, make it nearly impossible to flip their ports, if they have sufficient people on, make their ports flip at the normal rate. Everyone keeps saying this is an international server, so enough people should be online all of the time to allow port flips right?
I guess this would have to be average people over a period of time. For example, if Havana is being swarmed by 20 French, it would make sense for the Spanish to log off for a half hour or so. If the decreased unrest gain is enough to be a functional mechanic, it will be a deterrent to the French as their efforts are returning minimal gain. After a half hour of struggling for minimal reward, I think most people would give up and do something else.

Now, if this was UO or WOW, I wouldn't suggest that a loophole like that would have any impact, but in a game with a few dozen people playing on one side, the disappearance of 10 or 15 would have an impact.
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:00 PM
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Personally, I don't mind taking the blame for their lack of port flipping skills. It's not hard to figure out that if you see your port flipped in US time, then flip the enemies port at your time. What's so difficult about that?

But, by all means, blame me. Or Canada. Your choice.
Yeah that would work too, if they know that AT THEIR primetime they have the numbers why don't they attack! WOES its WOES ... and the need for an excuse to run... they would do the same if there were nobody on the server and they would play alone... they would run from NPCs I guess
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:09 PM
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Yeah that would work too, if they know that AT THEIR primetime they have the numbers why don't they attack! WOES its WOES ... and the need for an excuse to run... they would do the same if there were nobody on the server and they would play alone... they would run from NPCs I guess
Good, glad to see we're on the same page, but everyone should still blame me. If you hop on my wagon, you'll be taking away my sweet, sweet blame...and that just cannot be.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:04 PM
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Good, glad to see we're on the same page, but everyone should still blame me. If you hop on my wagon, you'll be taking away my sweet, sweet blame...and that just cannot be.
Okay. It's your fault.

Can I get back to grinding Brethren rep now? Or do I need to stick around for more of the silliness in this thread from both sides???
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:13 PM
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Can I get back to grinding Brethren rep now? Or do I need to stick around for more of the silliness in this thread from both sides???
Well, since I went and got myself banned by a poor-excuse-for-a-leader admin on the Brit forums, I have to bring my "immaturity" here. Heck, I even got the society thread closed...just noticed that...SORRY!!!

I'm crushed. I've been beside myself because I can't deal with the rejection! Oh the huge manatee! Whatever will I do????

Sara, you're all I have left!
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:18 PM
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Good, glad to see we're on the same page, but everyone should still blame me. If you hop on my wagon, you'll be taking away my sweet, sweet blame...and that just cannot be.
The fact is that the Spanish are Proud and want a WIN vs real Players. When the real players outperform them they use an excuse of imbalance or Ninjas. However, Calmdown McGiver used the Exploits to gain advantages from day one. When all these didn't work he quit. The Spanish are a proud bunch of people just wrong on one side of the spectrum, the fact that they playing a game on the internet which they want to control and everybody else MUST play it their way. I guess it doensn't work that way but then again, who am I do judge them
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:21 PM
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The fact is that the Spanish are Proud and want a WIN vs real Players. When the real players outperform them they use an excuse of imbalance or Ninjas. However, Calmdown McGiver used the Exploits to gain advantages from day one. When all these didn't work he quit. The Spanish are a proud bunch of people just wrong on one side of the spectrum, the fact that they playing a game on the internet which they want to control and everybody else MUST play it their way. I guess it doensn't work that way but then again, who am I do judge them

Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's too much logic for these forums...they're liable to explode!

Think of what you're doing, man!!! You could kill us all!
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:39 PM
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No matter how much you argue, the facts remain. Since night flips started, the amount of real RvR has fallen off a cliff. many many many of the PvPers from all factions have left and the server is nowhere near as much fun as it was.

We all know that FLS agree with you, our question is do they really understand what impact its having on the server? We have gone over the fact that the Spanish either quit or refuse to get involved in rvR because of the night flips, you can argue until the cows come home about how nightflips are fantastic, but everyone knows that they are not enjoying the game as much as before. Maybe the PvE players are, but anyone into PvP (those who remain) miss the days of real competitive RvR.
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:04 PM
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No matter how much you argue, the facts remain. Since night flips started, the amount of real RvR has fallen off a cliff. many many many of the PvPers from all factions have left and the server is nowhere near as much fun as it was.

We all know that FLS agree with you, our question is do they really understand what impact its having on the server? We have gone over the fact that the Spanish either quit or refuse to get involved in rvR because of the night flips, you can argue until the cows come home about how nightflips are fantastic, but everyone knows that they are not enjoying the game as much as before. Maybe the PvE players are, but anyone into PvP (those who remain) miss the days of real competitive RvR.
What is to you competitive RvR? Is it maybe when Spain had 50 players waiting for PB invites knowing that the Brits had (due to the Franco/Spanish alliance) only a max of 12 and you sunk all and bashed the brits on the forums. Or do you mean when it was competitve when you ECOBOMBED the living Jesus out of us, and sponsored the fact that France attacked a British Newbe town? Or maybe the fact that when you have the numbers and we don't so you can have an easy win? Which one is it? I guess you still play my game instead of playing yours. If you would be so kind and also PAY my subscription since you want me to play as you want me to.
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:52 PM
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Your record is broken, now for over 3 month. You should seek a new one. Your point is "pointless" due to the fact that you could hire and recruit US players but what are you doing? insulting them and driving them away. Smart move from you guys, but well its not my fault and then again. FLS made the mistake to re-lable Roberts from RP/historical Server to EU-Eng. I already had rolled my char to 15 when I saw the day the game went live. So blaim FLS not America, and stop being such a Stereotypical person

Excuse me ?

That's not fair. Many spanish players have tried to have north american players come to Roberts but without any tangible results. I have posted on several Forums trying to entice players onto enrolling with Spain on Roberts but in weeks I have not even received 1, not even O-N-E message asking for more informations.

We have done WAY MORE that a paying customer should EVER be expected to do in order to play an online game.

It is NOT my damn business to go beg others to please come play with my Nation and my server otherwise I cannot play the game given its design.

This is a responsibility of those who designed the game to MAKE SURE that there does is balance of power at all times and this includes making sure that no Nation gets the upper hand for having a larger population whether in the same time zone or in another time zone.

I am sorry, but I think it is way too much to ask to paying customers that they humiliate themselves begging other individuals to please come play on their server and with their nation otherwise they cannot play the game.

What kind of a business company it is one that expects its customers to go so much out of their way in order to play a game because they can't or don't want to fix game breaking issues as that of night flips ?

This game breaking problem to many european customers is NOT going to fix itself and it is a MYTH, IMHO, that the issue will "magically" self resolve somehow, "give it time".

It is now WELL OVER 2 MONTHS that the problem of night flips has been doing a devastating damage to the Roberts server population and in such a huge long time if it could self fix it would have done it already.

Well, IT HAS NOT.

Instead, a lot of the european customers felt disenfranchised from seeing FLS do nothing about such a game breaking issue for them and got alienated form the game and left, thus killing the great server that Roberts was.

Thank you FLS for killing the great server that Roberts was thanking to your inactivity in addressing for good, timely, the game breaking issue of night flips.

How much happy are you now seeing how empty is the Roberts server ?

That's at least my personal opinion on this issue.
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