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I discovered someone's taken pictures of (reconstruction) carvings from the Vasamuseet and posted them online, here. Not so useful for PotBS shipmodelling, but interesting nonetheless!

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Just found this site with links to ship replica sites:
http://www.timedesign.de/ship/ship.html

Not about shipbuilding - but really nice historical maps can be found here:
http://www.helmink.com/.

Almost all are available as high resolution scans.

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Found a neat site explaning square rigging

Square rigging

Of course the whole site is an interesting read, especially the articles section:
Sailing-ships

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Some good pictures of real-life building and additional information:
Building the Gotheborg

Rigging... lots and lots of info on rigging

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Ship Construction Books
The Lore Of Ships.
My father gave me a copy of this book when I was 8, about 42 years ago (do the math).

Copyright 1963
Tre Tryckare, E. Cagner

Library of congress card no. 63-18428
Printed in Sweden

Ship construction, Hull, Spars and Rigging, Sail, Propulsion, Fishing, Yachting, Gunnery, Navagation and Ship Handling.

From early wooden ships to early steam ships.

276 pages in 11" x 11" format. All drawings, no photos.

Exeptional.

Amazon link.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=br_ss_hs/102-0773291-8773755?platform=gurupa&url=index%3Dblended&keywor ds=the+lore+of+ships

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Seems the university of texas has a special section dedicated to the reseach of shipbuilding in the age of sail. Lots of interesting stuff.
If anyone live in texas they might be able to sneak into a course on say the study of shipbuilding theory .

great sketches Ship lab

This part is particular interesting.
It is a listing of ALL the theoretical books the university have set out to research.
Each book is givin a quick overview of what it contains, and then a listing of all the works which have been writin about it is listed - the result so to speak, of their research.
Deanes doctrine, is on the list, but not desribed/researched yet.
There are many others though.

In some of the research their findings are publicated online as pdf files(!).
Reading the british Newton script right now .



Plans for the 32-gun frigate Russia
(Not that there is a need for more firigates of this size right now.)

Here is a guide I wrote to laying out a spritsail backstay, so it gets the right look. English and Dutch methods.

Edit: Its written in Word
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A guide on how to make leafs. Or rather one way to do it.
Basic understanding of the editing tools in 3D Max 7 required, but could probably easily be copied to other programs.
Attached Files http://archive.burningsea.com/forums...attach/zip.gif Leafs.zip (287.9 KB, 281 views)

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Just found this on Orlogsbasen, figured it might be useful to people building english ships. It's a copy of mast and yard proportions ordered by Judichaer of the HMS Elizabeth (of 1726?). I'm not sure what size she was but googling brought up that a later Elizabeth was 74 guns (in the 1780s) so she was probably at least a ship of the line when these plans were taken. Still should be useful for english ships of any size.

http://www.orlogsbasen.dk/visskib.as...Elizabeth&la=2

Edit: this article is really interesting: http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/con...112/viewPage/1

Edit: Wow, I just stumbled upon this: Souvenir de Marine Conserves

There's not much from our time period, but several real gems that could probably be adapted, but most importantly it shows several pieces of rigging (blocks, etc) that would not have changed much (I think).

Edit: more free plans, and some not so free: http://www.modellismo-navale.it/MODE....html#progetti

Edit: All in russian but lots of nice pictures and diagrams: http://www.grinda.navy.ru/sailship/welcomr.htm

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Two most excellent books I recommend to anyone who have trouble with rigging:

Eighteenth-century Rigs & Rigging,
by Karl Heinz Marquardt

This book details EVERYTHING, and it have PICTURES in it, unlike a certain Lees, these actually makes sense.
It is overkill for the beginner. Beginners should look into zu Mondfeld first. This book however has details on those diffecult things that can be darn hard to figure out.
Also it have sailplans for every ship you could imagine, including, Xebecs, Barks, Pinks, Tartans, 2-masters, 1-masts, special rigs....everything http://archive.burningsea.com/forums...ate%5B1%5D.gif .
But THE MOST IMPORTANT thing in this book is the detailed explanation on, bitts, cleats...basically the belaying plan. It is explained where all those ropes attach to the decks. It is clear from his drawings, that everywhere where you can tie up a rope, it is made for one special in particular.
There are belaying plans like this for the following ships:

Continental ship, 1700
English ship, spritsail and jib-boom 1710
Russian ship 1750
French ship 1780
English ship, late 18th century

Marquardt writes in his foreword, that he have studied Anderson (1927) and Lees (1979) as well.
There are also loads upon loads of tables with info.
A magnifying glass can be a good idea to have nearby.


Rigging Period Ship Models
by Lennarth Petersson

This book features the Melampus. An 18-pounder frigate from 1785. The book is a compilations of closeup drawings of individual rigging parts. Great for basic understanding of "what goes where". Its way out of our period of 1660-1740 but the rigging principles are very close, and identical in many places.
There is no text in this book, except for names on the parts. A good "picture" book http://archive.burningsea.com/forums...ilies/cool.gif .

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpt jacksparrow http://archive.burningsea.com/forums...s/viewpost.gif
wow i learned a bit im learning 3ds max right now im gonna try and be an animaitor after highschool and colledge

-cpt jacksparrow


start here....

http://www.amazon.com/Illusion-Life-...e=UTF8&s=books

and here

http://www.amazon.com/Animators-Surv...e=UTF8&s=books

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpt jacksparrow http://archive.burningsea.com/forums...s/viewpost.gif
i already have and almost have comleted reading the survial kit.

ill get that disney one next.

Illusion of Life is great, you'll get more practical use out of the Survival Kit, but all the theories you need are in the Disney book. My copy is barely holding together, I got it in 1981. I had the chance to take Richard William's class a few years ago and his book is pretty much the weekend course, but he was really fun to watch. great stories.