Pirates 6V6's why?

[Dophuz DeLongstick]

Originally Posted by Undrsiege rofl you havent a clue...You fail to realize that not only do you get MOV you get MOT. And we do not get 5 it is per 8 per FIFO. So lets break this down. 5 Dead lvl 50 Pirates = 40 MOV and 40 MOT. Now I fixed that for you. btw i wasn't there but I heard it was 6 dead. So if I need to adjust this I can while I have time.

You have no clue as well and do not have to listen the the constant pissing and moaning of the Original Poster Mitchell in nation chat.

The game is broken for Pirates as it stands, and the silly thing is that no matter what we do we will always end up in 2nd place at the victory check unless all 3 nations co-ordinate an all out port attack on the pirates (which I'm not sure is now possible given the byzantine port flipping/unrest/martial law rules).


The only thing keeping alot of us seasoned PVP folks here is that we are sick to death of the other games available and that the ship PVP is somewhat fun and challanging.

It is silly to decry the results of losses when having fun in the only aspect that is interesting and in fact has no bearing on where we as a team end up in the nation standings.

So what if they bring 6 1st rates to OS PVP? Good for them. Gives us a slim chance to bag one and make it even more fun to PVP.

Mitchell, Please stop witht he negative posts and go back to what ever you are doing there down in front of the Auctioneer in MT and let the rest of us play the way we want to play.


Papa D
The Purge

[Bach]

Originally Posted by Undrsiege rofl you havent a clue...You fail to realize that not only do you get MOV you get MOT. And we do not get 5 it is per 8 per FIFO. So lets break this down. 5 Dead lvl 50 Pirates = 40 MOV and 40 MOT. Now I fixed that for you. btw I wasn't there but I heard it was 6 dead. So if I need to adjust this I can while I have time. Camping Mathew Town for 6 Days threw past few flips : 4,232,000db give or take a little. No need to argue or say it is not so that is the "FACT". We have ships you have not even seen yet.

Unless your looking for a nation of pirates in packet boats this is about the most CLUELESS thing YOU could have posted here.

[Dharus Tyranus]

Originally Posted by Undrsiege You guys come and fight do not get me wrong, but to come right and say you guys are the reason we leave or stay out of zones is just plain funny. Do not try and pat yourself on the back for something you feel you have caused, get your nation in order and prepare for battle.

Well, the fact is OMG left. Whatever the reason is not for me to say... that's you guys. I think you have implied more from the posts. This thread isn't about OMG though... its about 6v6s with Nationals. And if some pirates aren't willing to go toe to toe with nationals then our nation has a got a long way to go.***

I'm hoping you'll to bring your big ships out... I've got a lot of free deeds sitting in my warehouse waiting to trade for a 1st rate.

Edit:***this sentence isn't meant to critize pirates that use one tactic or another. I like the fast boat tactic but also enjoy the hvy 6v6 fights which is the point of the OP to claim that we pirates have no business doing this which I firmly disagree.

[Dharus Tyranus]

Originally Posted by Mitchell It would appear that we are being owned in 6v6.

You win some and you lose some... that's part of learning. We (purge) went 5(6?) losses to 2 French losses using big ships except for a MC Arcadia. Honestly, we were rusty and tried a different tactic which didn't really work. We were also outgunned but we fought. I'm not going into that tactic but we learned from it. I could of made it 3 loses instead of 2 if I hadn't of boarded one. That was my mistake but that's part of playing to game.

[Undrsiege]

Originally Posted by Waverider10 The second point to my post which you don't understand is that OMG didn't come back to continue to gank people. Now that could be for whatever reason... like bedtime or whatever but that is still a "FACT" as you'd say.

Quite possibly so. The 2 people that died in that battle decided to go see "Iron Man" from what I hear, so maybe the battle did clear it out for a bit. Practice does make perfect. To say avoiding fights will make you better is truly false. The Brits while they can packet a zone has seen that that does nothing when faced with real combat.

Case in point a HH driven like a packetboat.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/9/19/1443898/051.png

Can pirates win? YES. DO they have disadvantages? Yes. You guys have lots of skill because you practice. You have to search and find what you lack to succeed. Regardless of what FLS says you guys are gimped on cash drops so bad it hurts my eyes. I tested this theroy to level 12. I am all about fact.

National: 129k
Pirate: 17k

[William Rous]

While I agree that 6v6 does not give rats a good chance (as someone else said-see the dev logs, they agree) I don't mind groups that try. Our group has gotten several good ships splitting a straggler off and caping it while the other rats do their best.

[Bach]

Originally Posted by Mitchell I'm not telling anyone how to play the game. I am saying can we be a bit smarter about how we take on groups.Wolf packs backed by muscle can easily clear a zone and sink lots of ships and take very few losses. It is clear to me which groups care about the pirates. I could sure use an extra 1 million DB...What about the rest of you in pirate nation?

Mitch,

I've watched the wolf pack idea. I've even been in it a few times with you gents in your groups. It works I know it works. But I also understand the other side with the large ships and the fun of overcoming the odds. It can work too but it does come with the risks of the MOV/MOT thing. It wasn't always like this or to the degree it is with the underdog tools. But its not like we want to just stop doing the style we liked either. Lets just create some more red zones together and see what happens in the future.

The MOV/MOT system is broken the Devs just haven't caught up with it yet.
If you want 1 million dbs? Just log in a National alt. You can sink all us pirates a bunch of times anywhere as we'll just flag. Sell the MOV's and you can split the profits with us.

Yes we can create millions of dbs out of zero cost captured ships as pirates. Why the DEV's didn't catch this and reduce the MOV rate on pirates boggles my mind. Have you noticed all the newer pirates in the past week or so showing up at the noob areas? Ever notice how they don't ask any questions or group up with anyone. They're likely alot of alts of Nats who figured out this free db/MOT/MOV method by now. AT least the OMG are working for it and I can respect that.

Anyway, we got to be pirates and play reckless at times. If your wolf pack ever starts working together tight with the heavy pirate squadron guys nothing is going to stop us.

[Undrsiege]

Just so It is clear we plan on doing everything in our power to give you guys 3rd place. You guys deserve a little boost and we will try and help.

[Dharus Tyranus]

Originally Posted by Undrsiege The Brits while they can packet a zone has seen that that does nothing when faced with real combat.

I agree with your entire post but I just highlighted this point because it reflex my opinion. Pirates need to learn all styles of combat. I agree with the fast speed tactic... but you can't win the map that way alone. Although, I also believe that a good pirate group/team/nation can work the money to their advantage. Hopefully, we can do this next round.

Anyway... Mitch has to understand there is more to pirates than packetboat killing.

[Everette Thurmann]

PVP reminds me of this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6m1qgnUw74

Another day older and deeper in debt.