Pirates now dead for pvp?

[MF Kev B]

Originally Posted by csmith963 Some people are overstating it, but a Brit friend of mine was telling me he easily makes 100k/hour. This is a lot further down from the 400k someone said earlier but still absolutely rediculous. Nat money drops are already very superior to rats, now this too? It takes me a week and a half to make that selling on the ah. How is it even remotely fair that groups of people can grind a mission and blow that out of the water?

i thought it was some of your society mates i saw what looed to be grinding this mission as there was a bunch of rats on the dock there forever. Or were they there just for the money hand off from their nat alts

[Hamilkar]

Originally Posted by Ronbo256 I've got to agree (except for the Noob part, I know you better than that). Where's the sport in sailing a ship (Hermes Sleek) that costs next to nothing, can't be hit, won't give up MoV's when sunk, can run away from anyone, be repaired almost instantly, yet gives full reward if you win???? Prime example, my now sunk Abby cost me 80 Mov, and was totally useless, 99.5% of the time it just occupied a Drydock slot. A Reason is what, 66 MoV's??? Where is the balance??? Cursed Blade 100 MoV's??? Red Devil 90 Marks????? The pirate refits aren't worth the virtual paper the deed is written on. Want proof?? Log into Antigua and see just how many refits Pirates are sailing in PvP battles (the answer is 0), and how many Mercy's and Reasons are out there. Time to quit analyzing your "data gathering programs" and play as pirates for a few weeks Dev Team. See how much fun it is to play with fewer guns, less range, poorer accuracy, and only 90% of the speed of every one you will fight and see how long before you /ragequit!

Well you can rag on the reason being fewer mov all you want but it still hasn't gained durability and was nerfed several times before getting its latest round of buffing. I would venture a guess that a realistic MOV value for current stats is a bit higher than it currently is... or that its stats will get hit yet again with the nerf bat. Kinda like all the other NO only ships have been ... over and over and over.

If you cant beat lineships now after getting new and buffed ships ... well I guess you can just wait a patch til rats get basicly a 1/2 rate.

[NimitsTexan]

The big reasons you do not see Rats in their lvl 50 refits? The Pirate Hercules, the Sleek Hercules, and the Heavy Hercules. Considering that the opportunity cost for the latter two is not much higher (with MoVs going for 4000-5000db on Rackham) than that for a Mercy, and the insurance value is alot higher for all of them (MoVs are insured for some ridiculously low amount), there really is little reason for Pirates to use anything else but a Hercules refit.

[Detta Walker]

200k in 30 minutes in pure cash is completly ridiculous. You get like 500db per kill in a group of 6 for these ships, that means you would have to sink 13 ships per minute. That's completly ridiculous.

[Ronbo256]

Originally Posted by NimitsTexan The big reasons you do not see Rats in their lvl 50 refits? The Pirate Hercules, the Sleek Hercules, and the Heavy Hercules. Considering that the opportunity cost for the latter two is not much higher (with MoVs going for 4000-5000db on Rackham) than that for a Mercy, and the insurance value is alot higher for all of them (MoVs are insured for some ridiculously low amount), there really is little reason for Pirates to use anything else but a Hercules refit.

Wrong, the Pirate refits are a waste of marks, period. I spent 80 marks for an Abby, 1.5 made it obsolete since I can now drive a SMG if I want without a flag. Why would I need a 80 mark ship that hauls less than a quarter of a ship that costs next to nothing for me (capped deeds) AND is totally useless in combat. Also I got my last LSB by MoT tradein so you have to figure that was one expensive LSB and one expensive Herc Sleek I built with it (1.2 million dubs by your price of 4k per MoV) The same MoV's/MoT's would have netted me ONE cursed blade and ONE Red Devil both with 2 dur, so that would be 4 sinkings instead of 3, and I would have some MoT's left over. The real reason Pirates use Herc refits? They are the best ships available to us to build and sail legally with durability, Period.

[Pir ate]

the cursed blade costs the same as a mercy, its a mc myrmidon instead of defiant...why is the Mercy 10x better then the Cursed Blade.

[Detta Walker]

Originally Posted by Pir a te the cursed blade costs the same as a mercy, its a mc myrmidon instead of defiant...why is the Mercy 10x better then the Cursed Blade.

lololol the Cursed Blade can't even be compared to the Mercy because they are different types of ships.

But hey, the Cursed Blade costs far less as it does NOT require an actual deed (and not a MC myrmidon either, shows how little research you did there) but the level 37 standard myrmidon which is a 100db AH deed. Yet it is insured with 48,5k

Besides, if you had any clue whatsoever about the Cursed Blade, you'd know that it completly walks over a Mercy when it gets close and due to her very high speed, acceleration and armor it can get close.

Maybe if you actually had one, you'd know better.