Boarding woes

[CaptainDragon5]

Originally Posted by Spinnaker Sam What isn't mentioned if the Freetrader had a recently killed tag. Those can affect the award of a MoV. Correct? Based upon the cargo size he would have to be at least rank 32 to have a ship large enough to carry that much cargo. So would rank possibly have had an effect on not getting a MoV for attacking a level too low?

what your sounding like a noob lol

[ScaredyCat]

He was not recently killed.

[Spinnaker Sam]

Originally Posted by ScaredyCat He was not recently killed.

No, it just that I haven't won very frequently so I don't have as much personal experience in what the winner gets. Hence the question marks.

[Pir ate]

you dont get Cargo when you reject but you are suppose to get marks still, thats the whole point of it, Cargo or Marks.

Although i do think it is stupid that you can surrender seconds before being killed and get away with not giving up the cargo. It gives traders a free ride almost, they can fight it out and if they lose they can surrender and avoid giving up their cargo or get away. Its a Lose Lose situation for the victor, they can fight to the death and get marks but no cargo or get cargo and no marks despite fighting to all but the death, the Trader gets to fight to the death and win or fight to the death and not give up the cargo to the enemy or get away with the ship and give up the cargo - not to mention FTs specced for smuggling get to keep some of the cargo anyway.

If you get sunk while the surrender offer is still on the table it should count as if no surrender was offered. Surrenders offered should also be cancelled out by Boarding action (why would they accept the surrender, they just boarded you and can take all ur stuff anyway)

[Rakam LeSanglant]

No rest for the weak.

More loot for the victor.

I hate exploits.

FTs got PLENTY of ways to avoid a fight and/or get out of one ... Come on, don't tell me we cant loot em if we get to catch em ...

[Yardarm]

Please file a support ticket on this if you think there is an issue that needs to be investigated. There is no way to comment without any supporting information as to the level of the ship or any effects that would impact MOV/MOT rewards.

When you file a support ticket please include as much information as possible. Thanks.

[NimitsTexan]

Originally Posted by ScaredyCat After 15 minutes of chasing, a freetrader offered unconditional surrender at 931 tons just as he got boarded. I didnt click ANYTHING and there was still 20 seconds left Killed him in boarding, 0 tons of loot, not even marks. What the )="/(¤()#/¤%/(!? Is this intended?

I think that was me (my lvl 35 FT alt) . . . I assumed you realize that with a lvl 50 frigate and a lvl 50 character
attacking a lvl 32 ship on a lvl 35 character, you are too high a level to get any MoVs from the combat. So, I assumed you were going after the cargo . . . I came very close to exiting the encounter, until a wind shift put me at a bad angle. Even then, I was just a few dozen yards from entering escape point range when you caught up with me. Once it definate that I could not escape, I offered 100% surrender (not a great cargo, but worth about 50-100k on the AH), which I assumed was the reason you were going after a low level FT in the first place. Of course, you ignored the offer and boarded me, and get nothing for the effort . . . obviously I lost a ship, but then that FT Galleon is definately worth less than the cargo it was carrying.

Moral of the story, if you are hunting a low level fT/Bucc ship and he offers a surrender with cargo on board, might as well accept it . . . it might be something decent, and either way you are not getting MoVs.

And no . . . its not really an exploit . . . I still lose the cargo either way . . . but I will always force the player to make a decision between my cargo and my ship when I am running the FT. If the Pirate had wanted something from the fight, he could have accepted. He was not going to get MoVs no matter what he did.

[Sofmed]

This information doesn't exactly match the surrender guide so now, as a new player, I'm a little confused.

If your surrender is accepted, you lose cargo and keep your ship?
If your surrender is declined, you keep cargo and lose your ship?
How does level range affect the results?

IMO, it does make a little sense. If I was a ship that offered surrender and it was declined, I'm going to dump all my cargo to try and gain speed to escape. If there's no penalty for declining surrender, then why implement a surrender system in the first place?

[Gsnafooz]

Originally Posted by NachoFoot This information doesn't exactly match the surrender guide so now, as a new player, I'm a little confused. If your surrender is accepted, you lose cargo and keep your ship? If your surrender is declined, you keep cargo and lose your ship? How does level range affect the results? IMO, it does make a little sense. If I was a ship that offered surrender and it was declined, I'm going to dump all my cargo to try and gain speed to escape. If there's no penalty for declining surrender, then why implement a surrender system in the first place?

If you surrender and it's accepted, you keep whatever % of your cargo is remaining (if you offer 50%, you'd keep half of it, or more if you have certain skills) and your ship's durability. The enemy gets both marks and some cargo. If they decline, they only get 80% of your cargo if they sink you, or 100% if they board. They're always supposed to get marks.

And Nimits, you bet your *** that's an exploit.

[Sofmed]

Then why offer a surrender system that 90-95% of players will ignore if offered? Pvpers don't seem to care if you keep the ship or not. If you surrender, it's less cargo and thrill for them and they can get that extra mark bonus for boarding so why accept surrender?