Havana & Cayo Joint Defense Interest between France & Spain

[perseo10]

My vote for this proponsal.

Salute

[Drakkos]

Originally Posted by Garbad_the_Weak Boundaries are like the red circle -- the brits will happily grind away outside of them. They scheduled a port battle on christmas day, FFS. Do you seriously think they won't hit you in off hours from day one?

Do you seriously think any 'agreement' with the Dons is worth the time it took to write it down?
It won't last 24 hours if Spanish players are involved (lmao).

Good luck with that and watch your back. If there is a way for them to screw you over, they not only will--they will do so really quickly

[ejengstrom]

Originally Posted by Drakkos Do you seriously think any 'agreement' with the Dons is worth the time it took to write it down?

It's a good thing I don't have a clue who you are; or I'd risk harming our relationship by laughing out loud in your face.

Spain is full of a bunch of good players. Good players respect one another.

I trust them to deliver on the NAP for the OBVIOUS reasons as well as, I don't think many of them would want to see me calling them out for it. The same way most pre-existing Antiguan and involuntary mergees earlier this year attempted to shut down OMG from attacking Havana while we had a running NAP. We respected the terms of the NAP, OMG who had come here intending to stomp, had none.

Caused a huge uproar, some people quit, lots of abuse and name calling and ultimately more hardship than was required. We honored the NAP.

Sometimes you just have to demonstrate a tad bit of character.

[kentaggie]

If it helps keep French players in the game and keeps Havana outta the red I'm all for it.

[Alastriona]

Is it me or are the biggest opponents of this treaty the british and the pirates? I wonder why.

Personally I think that this is just confirmation that it is a good idea.

[Braziliano]

Nice Idea


Armada Espanola supports this too.
We will help as much we can

[Jane Kurlander]

Originally Posted by Alastriona Is it me or are the biggest opponents of this treaty the british and the pirates? I wonder why. Personally I think that this is just confirmation that it is a good idea.

No... it's just confirmation that it will help France and Spain.

[Drakkos]

Originally Posted by ejengstrom It's a good thing I don't have a clue who you are; or I'd risk harming our relationship by laughing out loud in your face. Spain is full of a bunch of good players. Good players respect one another. I trust them to deliver on the NAP for the OBVIOUS reasons as well as, I don't think many of them would want to see me calling them out for it. The same way most pre-existing Antiguan and involuntary mergees earlier this year attempted to shut down OMG from attacking Havana while we had a running NAP. We respected the terms of the NAP, OMG who had come here intending to stomp, had none. Caused a huge uproar, some people quit, lots of abuse and name calling and ultimately more hardship than was required. We honored the NAP. Sometimes you just have to demonstrate a tad bit of character.

Character is exactly what is at issue isn't it? Keeping one's word.

And regardless of your hopes and ideas--the Spanish players cannot keep their word. In most cases, as recent history proves, for more than 12 hours.

I meant exactly what I said in the post above.

Good luck to you if you believe you can have any agreement with the Spanish on Antigua.

I honestly believe that if they can screw you or anyone else over by 'appearing' to have an agreement then they will.
It's what they've done before.

Hey, but if you think it will be a huge benefit to have an agreement with the least trustful players on the server then more power too ya!

PS. I am absolutely and positively nobody. Certainly not in this game and never will be. That doesn't mean I'm wrong

[Ryokan76]

Well, lucky for the French they don't need every Spaniard to abide by the agreement. It's enough that some of the most respected and skilled societies do. And they will.

[stokes234]

Originally Posted by Drakkos Character is exactly what is at issue isn't it? Keeping one's word. And regardless of your hopes and ideas--the Spanish players cannot keep their word. In most cases, as recent history proves, for more than 12 hours. I meant exactly what I said in the post above. Good luck to you if you believe you can have any agreement with the Spanish on Antigua. I honestly believe that if they can screw you or anyone else over by 'appearing' to have an agreement then they will. It's what they've done before. Hey, but if you think it will be a huge benefit to have an agreement with the least trustful players on the server then more power too ya! PS. I am absolutely and positively nobody. Certainly not in this game and never will be. That doesn't mean I'm wrong

Why so bitter?

Are you referring to the time garbad proposed a NAP for DNHs, nobody agreed, and then we hit yours?

Cos if you are, thats not really much to go by.