TAP Disbanding, says goodbye to Roberts

[James Maddox]

Originally Posted by NMAL72 Good point about the multiple accounts. You and I easily pay over $100 a month to play the game, run a mass econ, and sell goods as you say to the entire server and we get griefed because the price is too high (from our own nation no less).

Compass, I'm not trying to grief you. I'm honestly not. But if you're looking for pvp then that's where you've got to put your efforts. Into getting people out there regularly. People are so dang innovative when it comes to working the system, but try and get people to work with other people and they've got no innovation or ideas left.

[sfarzin]

Originally Posted by NMAL72 For level 50 players, who can grind dailies (both avcom and Orleans) results in roughly 136,000 doubloon a day for what amounts to 90 minutes of game time give or take. In two days you can fully outfit a Dauntless, Cap MC, or other PvP ship for all of its durability and PvP to your heart's content. 3 hours of game time, for several days of PvP provided you don't sink a lot.

so u mean u outfit a 20k per dura ship for 80 k?
just use blacks for those pvp ships, the greens wont make u any better

[CaptainCanuck]

Originally Posted by James Maddox But who was buying them? Were you feeding ships to the experienced pvpers and pushing out the newer pvpers? If you were so concerned about getting more people pvping, in what way did you make sure the ships and equipment got to them and not the Brogsitters out there?

By the sounds of it you are not a capitalist. But thats another topic.

The brogsitters of the server, as you put it, are pvp'ing in mercys, reasons, herc variants and colossals, for the most part.

Go back through the thread and tell me how many of those ships we produced and listed. Brog isnt buying Raa MC's or Posti MC's. We sold exactly 0 colossals. We sold exactly 0 lsb's. We produced 2 Mordaunt deeds per week (Reason) which were, for the most part, consumed by us (Mr Curran ). We produced 4 Defiant MC's per week (Mercy). We produced 6 vanilla herc deeds per week, usually with 1 or 2 being consumed by our own group.

The brogsitters of the world were not pvp'ing in our ships, and if you think the experienced pvp'ers of the server were the ones buying up our cap mc's, conquistadors, cerberus', locusts, postis, mediators, raas, van hoorns, bermudas, etc., then you are delusional.

[CompassRose]

Originally Posted by James Maddox Compass, I'm not trying to grief you. I'm honestly not. But if you're looking for pvp then that's where you've got to put your efforts. Into getting people out there regularly. People are so dang innovative when it comes to working the system, but try and get people to work with other people and they've got no innovation or ideas left.

Sure sounds like it. You've been downright insulting, laying the blame upon the very people who have been doing everything in their power to sink the enemy, attending port battles and risking their 'biggest and best' every time when called upon.

How many times have I said in this thread that we have offered our assistance at every turn, only to hear crickets chirping along with the phrase: 'let's form a council'.

I'll refer back to a council meetings where I said close to the following:

'The one thing societies have to do to make PvP more accessible is taking away the fear of loss from it. I'm not talking about doubloons here. There's plenty of ways to get those. It's that the ships might not be readily accessible. Insurance will always cover the majority of the loss, but can you immediately re-outfit or replace a ship easily?'

That is where I offered my assistance to retool a society's econ so they could streamline their production and push out ships to the degree they could keep their players PvPing as often as they wished. That same offer was made to you. Did ANYONE accept the offer? No they did not. This situation is your doing, not mine, so wallow in it.

God, do I want to sink something!!

[James Maddox]

Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck By the sounds of it you are not a capitalist. But thats another topic. The brogsitters of the server, as you put it, are pvp'ing in mercys, reasons, herc variants and colossals, for the most part. Go back through the thread and tell me how many of those ships we produced and listed. Brog isnt buying Raa MC's or Posti MC's. We sold exactly 0 colossals. We sold exactly 0 lsb's. We produced 2 Mordaunt deeds per week (Reason) which were, for the most part, consumed by us (Mr Curran ). We produced 4 Defiant MC's per week (Mercy). We produced 6 vanilla herc deeds per week, usually with 1 or 2 being consumed by our own group. The brogsitters of the world were not pvp'ing in our ships, and if you think the experienced pvp'ers of the server were the ones buying up our cap mc's, conquistadors, cerberus', locusts, postis, mediators, raas, van hoorns, bermudas, etc., then you are delusional.

I've got a canadian telling me I'm not a capitalist. Great.

Fine. All hail TAP. Roberts is a dismal place today. We're witnessing the end of the greatest era we've ever known and I weep.

[James Maddox]

Originally Posted by NMAL72 This situation is your doing, not mine, so wallow in it you finger-pointing, sanctimonious toad. God, do I want to sink something!!

Then my work is done here! *bows*

To the Jerk-cave! *woosh!*

[CaptainCanuck]

Originally Posted by James Maddox Compass, I'm not trying to grief you. I'm honestly not. But if you're looking for pvp then that's where you've got to put your efforts. Into getting people out there regularly. People are so dang innovative when it comes to working the system, but try and get people to work with other people and they've got no innovation or ideas left.

How many offers did you make to the nation to help train them to pvp?

How many ships did you sell to the nation, or for that matter, the server as a whole? (while almost every other society was producing lsb's and hoarding them for their own personal use)

How many groups did you lead into red zones against the french and the rats?

How many attempted port flips were repulsed by your society alone, while being refused for help in nation chat and watching the "lfg 4 dailies pst" messages scrolled by incessently?

How many times did you ask another society to lay off flipping ports that would put the heart of the nations econ in the red, only to be told on nation chat to sod off, then have to escort that same socities colossals 2 days later through that same red zone so they could get to orleans to do dailies?

How many hours did you put into producing a complex, 30+ page econ proposal which was fully scaleable and then offer it to any society willing to use it?

How many nights did you sit on vent until the early hours of the morning answering econ questions, helping to structure proper lines, giving (solicited) advice and suggestions to players from societies who then turn and grief us on the forums?

All of us, as a group, have done more than our share to try and help the british nation, I dare say more than any other society.

Our efforts, individually and as a society, are beyond reproach. There is nobody in the british nation who can claim we should or could have done more and retain any shred of credibility.

[CompassRose]

Originally Posted by James Maddox Then my work is done here! *bows* To the Jerk-cave! *woosh!*

I still love when you do that.

[CompassRose]

Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck Our efforts, individually and as a society, are beyond reproach. There is nobody in the british nation who can claim we should or could have done more and retain any shred of credibility.

By the way, where's Henry Courtney? You know he's just DYING to post on this thread after seeing the turn it has taken.

[James Maddox]

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