Adjustments to Pirate Ships, V.2...

[kritikal]

Because Sunleader Derailed my last thread, here is my Suggestion reposted.

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For the Moment Several Pirate Refits are Rather Imbalanced, some Over Powered While others go along almost unused, in general sense, the Purpose of this Thread is to Balance them Properly against their National Equivalents.

Ships for Tuning:

The Pirate Hercules; Polar/Defense/Acceleration/Reload Adjustments The Cursed Blade: Polar/Maneuverability Adjustments The Abandons Will Galleon: Speed/Reload/Polar/Maneuverability/Armor Improvements The Bahamut Refit Bark: Polar/Poundage Adjustments The Reaper's Grasp Refit Bark: Polar/Maneuverability/Reload/Poundage Adjustments The Neptune's Disgrace Galleon: Polar/Armor/Maneuverability Improvements The Bloody Dagger Refit Frigate: Polar/Reload/OS/Maneuverability Adjustments The Red Devil Xebec: Polar/Mass Adjustments

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Possible Changes:

Pirate Hercules:

Running: 88.5% ---> 95%
Beam Reach: 97.5% ---> 92.5%
Close Haul: 77% ---> 80%

Defense: 24 ---> 21

Acceleration: 1.13 ---> 1.20

Reload Bonus: 15%---> 17.5%

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The Cursed Blade:

Maximum Speed: 16.30 ---> 16.10

Acceleration: 0.98 ---> 1.02

Running: 90% ---> 95%
Beam Reach: 90% ---> 85%
Close Haul: 80% ---> 82.5%

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Abandons Will Galleon:

Maximum Speed: 17 ---> 16.5

Broadside DR: 7 ---> 10
Bow DR: 3 ---> 7
Stern DR: 3---> 7

Reload Bonus: 12.5% ---> 17.5%

Acceleration: 0.79 ---> 0.82

Running: 85% ---> 90%
Close Haul: 65% ---> 70%

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Bahamut Refit Bark:

Gundeck: 10x22lbers ---> 14x20lbers

Upperdeck: 26x15lbers ---> 24x15lbers

Running: 80% ---> 85%

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Reaper's Grasp Refit Bark:

Add +20% Reload Bonus

Turning Acceleration: 8.50 ---> 9.10

Close Haul: 65% ---> 80%

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Neptune's Disgrace Refit Bark:

Maximum Speed: 17 Knots ---> 16.5 Knots

Acceleration: 0.79 ---> 0.94

Turning Acceleration: 6.90 ---> 8.50

Turning Slow: 3.25 ---> 3.75

Turning Fast: 10.10 ---> 10.50

Broadside DR: 5 ---> 7
Stern DR: 2 ---> 5
Bow DR: 2---> 5

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The Bloody Dagger:

Turning Fast: 9.20 ---> 9.50

Turning Slow: 3.75 ---> 4.00

OS Speed: 59 Knots ---> 61 Knots

OS Visibility: 65 Miles ---> 60 Miles

Close Haul: 85% ---> 87%

Reload Bonus: 12.5% ---> 17.5%

Bow DR: 2 ---> 3
Stern DR: 2 ---> 3

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The Red Devil Xebec:

Mass: Fourth Rate ---> Cerberus

Best Point: 35' ---> 90

Broad Reach: 80% ---> 82.5%
Beam Reach: 95% ---> 100%
Close Haul: 100% ---> 92.5%

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/Discuss

Nuju-

[James Hope]

Why on earth would the Neptune's disgrace get buffed handling and speed? It's a refit but it still doesn't warrant those changes.

The Pirate Herc already out-guns counterparts in broadsides, I don't know about the 15>17.5 reload.

Abaddons will needs something doing with it, as I have already said lately it's a ship that currently has no real purpose though i'm not sure those changes will give it one.

Giving the bloody dagger a 17.5% reload again seems crazy, especially when you're giving it even better handling.

[John Blackhard]

New idea:

We stop buffing OP Rats and work on the Privateer.

Anyone with me?

[James Hope]

Originally Posted by John Blackhard New idea: We stop buffing OP Rats and work on the Privateer. Anyone with me?

It's something that FLS are already working on, no need for topics

[kritikal]

It seems this thread was Cleared of it's Previous spam, allow me to Awaken it.

Originally Posted by James Hope Why on earth would the Neptune's disgrace get buffed handling and speed? It's a refit but it still doesn't warrant those changes.

Because it must be Balanced against the Discovery/Galliant, which Already signifigently outclass it.

Originally Posted by James Hope The Pirate Herc already out-guns counterparts in broadsides, I don't know about the 15>17.5 reload.

The Reload Bonus is just a slight improvement to Benefit it against Broadside-Broadside Combat with Opponents. To that, I believe the Defense Trade is more then decent for a minor buff.

Originally Posted by James Hope Abaddons will needs something doing with it, as I have already said lately it's a ship that currently has no real purpose though i'm not sure those changes will give it one.

My changes make it a Slightly Heavier Pirate Hercules with a Trade Off for Polars, Maneuverability to Superior Speed, Armor/Structure. A Heavy Brawler in sense.

Originally Posted by James Hope Giving the bloody dagger a 17.5% reload again seems crazy, especially when you're giving it even better handling.

Against the Monarch, and Intrepid which both have a +20% Reload Bonus, then the Mercy/Achilles which have an Epic Spike, Reload, and Accuracy, it should be more than balanced.

Nuju-

[Georgiana Jennings]

Half these changes just seem random. Most of the others seem stupid.

The Red Devil polars/mass change (if the mass change is possible?) would make more sense than what FLS actually did to it, however.

[Kaede_Baq]

Let a useless thread die, really. It shouldn't be in the suggestions-forums either. Rather put it in Ships, Ship combat, & Ship Skills. Here we vote on the OP suggestions, while that forum is more open to debate and constructive discussions around the topic.

Only thing I agree on btw is the ship mass for the RD and its polar-changes, but with the current nerf.

[brasa218]

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[kritikal]

Originally Posted by Georgiana Jennings Half these changes just seem random. Most of the others seem stupid.

Only someone which doesn't understand these Ships or the Pirate Skillset would regard my Suggested Changes as Random/Pointless.

STUDY THIS FOR SOME TIME.

Originally Posted by brasa218 no

Oppose my Changes properly. /Addwalloftextincludingreasoning.

Nuju-

[Kaede_Baq]

Originally Posted by toanuju281 Only someone which doesn't understand these Ships or the Pirate Skillset would regard my Suggested Changes as Random/Pointless. STUDY THIS FOR SOME TIME.

You neither L2P or get better in PvP by studying the skillsets. As you may not find your personal preference in a playstyle if you only go for the "OP-Skills" of the class instead of using those that makes you the most comfortable playing, this method could actually gimp you.