Fishing Rewards *ALL*

[elessaria]

Originally Posted by Pir a te One of the main issues raised by peeps I have talked to is not the rewards themselves as they can be altered, its the method of obtaining the rewards. Even if there is only 1 reward that gives you an advantage in PvP then the people that mindlessly fish are going to have an advantage. FLS still have not worked it out, requiring people to PvE to gain advantage in PvP is not going to make you any friends. There are 2 types of PvPers, those that couldnt care less about having to PvE to PvP and those that hate the entire concept.

I am going to say this one more time in the hope people will get it.

FISH

ARE

TRADABLE

If you think the mechanic is poor, and the rewards badly thought out; and they are; SAY THAT. Making arguements based on "OMG I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO PVE" when you clearly don't have to PvE is utterly futile.

[elessaria]

Originally Posted by Pir a te use of auto clickers and/or macros is against the EULA The issue of course is that its next to impossible to prove that someone was using something as simple as an auto clicker when they can just claim that they setup a motorized lever that pushes the button, which is not against the EULA.

Even then it's pretty fuzzy. There is an arguement that clicking the "fishing" button every 7s is neither unintended gameplay nor impacts it over and above actually sitting there.

[Pir ate]

Originally Posted by elessaria Even then it's pretty fuzzy. There is an arguement that clicking the "fishing" button every 7s is neither unintended gameplay nor impacts it over and above actually sitting there.

only macros, bots and other programs are covered by the EULA.

[Remus' Mum]

Originally Posted by elessaria Even then it's pretty fuzzy. There is an arguement that clicking the "fishing" button every 7s is neither unintended gameplay nor impacts it over and above actually sitting there.

Excuse me,
The word Mr te quoted from the EULA was "unattended" not "unintended".

[elessaria]

Originally Posted by Pir a te only macros, bots and other programs are covered by the EULA.

I meant in relation to an autoclicker or simple bot. It says you can't use them for unintended gameplay or to affect gameplay. In this case the program isn't really doing either, it just prevents you getting RSI.

[elessaria]

Originally Posted by Remus' Mum Excuse me, The word Mr te quoted from the EULA was "unattended" not "unintended".

Ooops. Okay so it's fine if I watch a DVD and supervise the bot then?

[Horatio Wilberforce]

Originally Posted by Pir a te The issue of course is that its next to impossible to prove that someone was using something as simple as an auto clicker when they can just claim that they setup a motorized lever that pushes the button, which is not against the EULA.

The clearer issue now is that FLS' GM's are no longer on 24 hours. Since they cut down the GM hours and the staff itself. I think it will be impossible to stop macro fishing. The rewards for fishing are too great to ignore at this point.

Remus does raise a good point. Strictly PvPers should have a means of acquiring fish without fishing.

Off the top of my head there seems to be a several ways this can be accomplished:

1) Put fish on loot table.

2) Increase the PvP bounty so PvPers will have more money to buy fish on the AH Livewell.

3) Add a turnin with the MoV/MoT exchange for crates of fish. Similar to the conquest crates that are already available which provide junk loot. So you would be guaranteed fish, but the exact composition of fish is somewhat randomized.

[MrTheOx]

Originally Posted by Pir a te The issue of course is that its next to impossible to prove that someone was using something as simple as an auto clicker when they can just claim that they setup a motorized lever that pushes the button, which is not against the EULA.

Careful, robot button pushers can take on a mind of their own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmQ5LsNMXZ4

[Eggzie]

Originally Posted by Horatio Wilberforce 3) Add a turnin with the MoV/MoT exchange for crates of fish. Similar to the conquest crates that are already available which provide junk loot. So you would be guaranteed fish, but the exact composition of fish is somewhat randomized.

Ooh I like this.

[elessaria]

Originally Posted by Horatio Wilberforce 3) Add a turnin with the MoV/MoT exchange for crates of fish. Similar to the conquest crates that are already available which provide junk loot. So you would be guaranteed fish, but the exact composition of fish is somewhat randomized.

Now *THAT* is a good idea.


Though it will probably result in people farming marks to farm fish instead, lol.