New Map, who is rolling where?

[pro]

Originally Posted by Djura Riva for you and for Spain be much better that you learn new Spain players how to play that you go to PVP every night. Elu, Jay Jay you all time talk and defend PAAA like you are born with PAAA. What are you ? PAAA, HMK, FE, Warriors, Rulsers, Los Diablos, EDR, PODW ?!!! You all time force talk how PAAA not play last map. I don t know but i see them in many fights on Brit side. Brits lose last map because they start play when Dons have 220-230 points.

defend paaa of whut ? they all nubz we know

[RaiVeN]

Originally Posted by Djura Hey, hey, hey !!!!! Stop with **** talk Elu, Riva, Jay Jay and 100 others players that play for fun !!!!!! I have most fight in game and in forum with DSL but they are perfect players to show us all how this game can live. They play all time. They not change sides. They play against us and when we kill them every time and when they kills us every time. You can t be good for game in same time and just look your fun. You change hypothesis. You just change side for your own fun and you always join wining team. And that is fact. I dont have nothing against that i like you more in 4 sides in game that you stop playing game. But you can t talk like you doing something for game. All what you do is for your fun. And that is ok for me, you play with rules. Riva for you and for Spain be much better that you learn new Spain players how to play that you go to PVP every night. Elu, Jay Jay you all time talk and defend PAAA like you are born with PAAA. What are you ? PAAA, HMK, FE, Warriors, Rulsers, Los Diablos, EDR, PODW ?!!! You all time force talk how PAAA not play last map. I don t know but i see them in many fights on Brit side. Brits lose last map because they start play when Dons have 220-230 points. It is best to have instant action every night but on long way that kill game because with that way of play we can t have new players. just look Lenin, Ray and his group. Half last map they play for Dons and Rats in same time. They just in one moment dicade what be wining side but they make big mistake. They give **** about game, Rats, Dons, they just loking for they fun and win. And 10 of them killin game for 100 others !!! And one more time i say it is better that you play for fun that you not play game but just try to stay on one side and help that side to be better that is how we can save this game. Pls just don t talk to much. Play what you want and how you like, it is your decision not FlS force of you.

I want to add something more, brits lost the map because they couldnt beat spain, and also have big problems with rats.

If not saw the PBs, we didnt lose that many, and in 2 we were 15 vs 24. We stoped them in winning when you wanted to help them winnning better than pirates

Brit pb plan is normally a fail.

[Cap'n Morris]

I will as ever remain a Pirate, as will most of the regular Rulers.

I know that Drecksacke will remain as Pirates too, as will Tete's crew.

I intend to continue pushing ports into contention, and ignoring all pleas for clemency or fair play on the OS.

Believe it or not, it's the might of folk like Asia Nuru that lead to many of the PBs we finally get, and not the all powerful pvp groups.

So here's a tip hat to all pirates that stay involved in the RvR and generation of PvP zones despite all the mechanics against us.

[alfabet10]

Originally Posted by RaiVeN Brit pb plan is normally a fail.

Quite simply not true. Brit execution of pb plan is normally fail not the plan itself


Castaway Starbuck

[Ronda Hogg]

Originally Posted by RaiVeN I want to add something more, brits lost the map because they couldnt beat spain, and also have big problems with rats. If not saw the PBs, we didnt lose that many, and in 2 we were 15 vs 24. We stoped them in winning when you wanted to help them winnning better than pirates Brit pb plan is normally a fail.

Imo, that is not entirely true. I don't know how you want to back that up. What does "Defeating" mean to you? Offense/Defense PB's, Map etc.

If the Brits are on a decent Map with 1x DSL 1x NSTC 1x PAAA 1x Skirmish group, it is tough to beat that and you know that.

You mentioned a PB where 7 or 8 DSL players were in the PB and it was still lost. Of course, because we (DSL) are not NINA aka Koksi who say that PBs are won because of DSL, since it's wrong. All DSL does is to be fully commited to the Brits and taking partial breaks if we don't get any support. Why is that? Because for a long time we were the only British group at all that could regularly field a decent Team to defend and attack ports. Without support, you get exhausted.

Yes, I think we are the remaining core of Britland, since we play here for almost 4 years now without switching Nations at all, appart from Koksi who ragerolled French at one point.

The point is, when the map was at it's turning point, we had a lot of momentum and we won lots of PB's and OS fights. So we tried to attack the Rats at MT and De L'isle.

It was quite clear for us, that MT would be a tough nut, so we went there with a DSL group and a NSTC group to hit it, with full eco support.

Then Dark Water showed up and hit the NSTC group and sink them, while we were blockading MT. So points didn't rise at all. Then Dark Water retreatet. Rats had no decent group out there to defend MT, it was a no brainer.

Then Adventurers/PAAA came out with a full heavy group. We hit them, sink 5 of them ok, good. Then more and more rats were comming to MT to defend it. Adventurers get out again and hit NSTC. They kill all NSTCs while we are getting greifed by an Arcadia and TETE. Meanwhile contention was dropping like crazy.

It was already 3 hours after starting to flip MT. So, after they killed NSTC we hit Adventurers again and killed them again. In the meantime Dark Water were patrolling MT. We jump back out to attack Dark Water, Dark Water gone. Then Adventurers get back out again and hit NSTC again, sinking them again.

At that point we really got annoyed by it. 3 of us had to log, due to work next day. So, we invest massive amounts of ressources to attack MT, which under normal circumstances could only be defended by Dark Water as their main heavy group. So Brits lost ressources, a day to attack a port and we all got angry on Nation that we couldn't flip it.

The next day, we tried to hit De L'Isle, same groups. Only 3 rats were there to defend it, against 2 British groups. Again a no brainer, for flipping the port.

PAAA asked us on their Brits where we are, we told them to come down to De L'Isle and support us flipping it, since we don't want to give the Rat a Map Win, after that we wanted to attack a Spanish Port to make it a bit more even.

20 Minutes later PAAA finally arrived at De L'Isle, guess what...right, as Rats. We told NSTC to jump in so, they had to attack us. They did and we lost our first fight against them. Which means 5-0 = 700 points. We spawn somewhere else, meanwhile they attack NSTC and sink them too. Hmm, yes....nice help.

We jump back out, head towards De L'ISLE and attack them again. This time we sink one, 5 run away 1-0 after 15 minutes = 150 points...nice.

They reform, tag us. We sink 2 of them , 4 run away. They get out of the fight, reform and attack NSTC, they sink 5 NSTCS, meanwhile dozens of rats in Arcadias start greifing us like crazy, until we logged out on the Open Sea. Another day wasted! Port defend by PAAA.

In the meantime, the Spanish attacked 2 French Ports and a Rat port. Just saying....

Then thanks to NSTCs endurance they flipped to Rat ports, where we expected low resistance. The 3-4 Portbattles against the Rats were Turkey-Shootings.

So we expected about 20 Rats at De L'ISLE, maybe 3-4 Dark Waters, that's it. But what's that`? 21 Brits vs. 24 Rats, and 6-7 Dark Water + 8 Adventurers(PAAA).

People who claimed being Brits and that they were only looking for some 6x6, which we agreed with. No problems of fighting them 6x6 on the Open Sea, maybe at MT or so. But in a PB, now killing their own Nation guys? We lost the PB, we lost Guanica too, again lots of Adventurers in the Rat fleet. Rats bragging on the Forums, claiming their win, basically using a full 6 group PAAA who suddenly decide to play as rats, backstabbing us for no reason.

They were gone for about 4-5 Weeks for exams. They came back, telling me that they will now play more often again as Brits. Then they got no fights on the Open Sea and decided to look for some fights on their Rats. We told them, that it's ok, to have some PvP somewhere. But then seeing them actively helping Rats against Brits, that wasn't expected at all.

I wrote them 4 long letters on Soc Chat and left Aspera, being totally disappointed from that. Especially if I consider people "friends". There were never any issues, we had a lot of fun on Vent, some of them like Ross do even speak a bit of German and I learned a tiny bit of Russian. We had some laughter, and everything was fine. I really wonder myself, if winning CoCs and stuff like that is all that matters in a game like that.

And if everyone thinks different, then please tell me your side of the story. But please without this BS excuses .

Mo

[pro]

Originally Posted by Ronda Hogg Imo, that is not entirely true. I don't know how you want to back that up. What does "Defeating" mean to you? Offense/Defense PB's, Map etc. If the Brits are on a decent Map with 1x DSL 1x NSTC 1x PAAA 1x Skirmish group, it is tough to beat that and you know that. You mentioned a PB where 7 or 8 DSL players were in the PB and it was still lost. Of course, because we (DSL) are not NINA aka Koksi who say that PBs are won because of DSL, since it's wrong. All DSL does is to be fully commited to the Brits and taking partial breaks if we don't get any support. Why is that? Because for a long time we were the only British group at all that could regularly field a decent Team to defend and attack ports. Without support, you get exhausted. Yes, I think we are the remaining core of Britland, since we play here for almost 4 years now without switching Nations at all, appart from Koksi who ragerolled French at one point. The point is, when the map was at it's turning point, we had a lot of momentum and we won lots of PB's and OS fights. So we tried to attack the Rats at MT and De L'isle. It was quite clear for us, that MT would be a tough nut, so we went there with a DSL group and a NSTC group to hit it, with full eco support. Then Dark Water showed up and hit the NSTC group and sink them, while we were blockading MT. So points didn't rise at all. Then Dark Water retreatet. Rats had no decent group out there to defend MT, it was a no brainer. Then Adventurers/PAAA came out with a full heavy group. We hit them, sink 5 of them ok, good. Then more and more rats were comming to MT to defend it. Adventurers get out again and hit NSTC. They kill all NSTCs while we are getting greifed by an Arcadia and TETE. Meanwhile contention was dropping like crazy. It was already 3 hours after starting to flip MT. So, after they killed NSTC we hit Adventurers again and killed them again. In the meantime Dark Water were patrolling MT. We jump back out to attack Dark Water, Dark Water gone. Then Adventurers get back out again and hit NSTC again, sinking them again. At that point we really got annoyed by it. 3 of us had to log, due to work next day. So, we invest massive amounts of ressources to attack MT, which under normal circumstances could only be defended by Dark Water as their main heavy group. So Brits lost ressources, a day to attack a port and we all got angry on Nation that we couldn't flip it. The next day, we tried to hit De L'Isle, same groups. Only 3 rats were there to defend it, against 2 British groups. Again a no brainer, for flipping the port. PAAA asked us on their Brits where we are, we told them to come down to De L'Isle and support us flipping it, since we don't want to give the Rat a Map Win, after that we wanted to attack a Spanish Port to make it a bit more even. 20 Minutes later PAAA finally arrived at De L'Isle, guess what...right, as Rats. We told NSTC to jump in so, they had to attack us. They did and we lost our first fight against them. Which means 5-0 = 700 points. We spawn somewhere else, meanwhile they attack NSTC and sink them too. Hmm, yes....nice help. We jump back out, head towards De L'ISLE and attack them again. This time we sink one, 5 run away 1-0 after 15 minutes = 150 points...nice. They reform, tag us. We sink 2 of them , 4 run away. They get out of the fight, reform and attack NSTC, they sink 5 NSTCS, meanwhile dozens of rats in Arcadias start greifing us like crazy, until we logged out on the Open Sea. Another day wasted! Port defend by PAAA. In the meantime, the Spanish attacked 2 French Ports and a Rat port. Just saying.... Then thanks to NSTCs endurance they flipped to Rat ports, where we expected low resistance. The 3-4 Portbattles against the Rats were Turkey-Shootings. So we expected about 20 Rats at De L'ISLE, maybe 3-4 Dark Waters, that's it. But what's that`? 21 Brits vs. 24 Rats, and 6-7 Dark Water + 8 Adventurers(PAAA). People who claimed being Brits and that they were only looking for some 6x6, which we agreed with. No problems of fighting them 6x6 on the Open Sea, maybe at MT or so. But in a PB, now killing their own Nation guys? We lost the PB, we lost Guanica too, again lots of Adventurers in the Rat fleet. Rats bragging on the Forums, claiming their win, basically using a full 6 group PAAA who suddenly decide to play as rats, backstabbing us for no reason. They were gone for about 4-5 Weeks for exams. They came back, telling me that they will now play more often again as Brits. Then they got no fights on the Open Sea and decided to look for some fights on their Rats. We told them, that it's ok, to have some PvP somewhere. But then seeing them actively helping Rats against Brits, that wasn't expected at all. I wrote them 4 long letters on Soc Chat and left Aspera, being totally disappointed from that. Especially if I consider people "friends". There were never any issues, we had a lot of fun on Vent, some of them like Ross do even speak a bit of German and I learned a tiny bit of Russian. We had some laughter, and everything was fine. I really wonder myself, if winning CoCs and stuff like that is all that matters in a game like that. And if everyone thinks different, then please tell me your side of the story. But please without this BS excuses . Mo

PAAA PAAA PAAA... wow u fail to flip 2 port and its our fault

[Ronda Hogg]

Fail to flip 2 Ports = 2 Lost Port Battles = Missed to Flip 2 Spanish Ports = Lost 2 days = Nation went crazy. So, pretty big impact, for backstabbing your own people.

[von Manteuffel]

Originally Posted by Ronda Hogg If the Brits are on a decent Map with 1x DSL 1x NSTC 1x PAAA 1x Skirmish group, it is tough to beat that and you know that. You mentioned a PB where 7 or 8 DSL players were in the PB and it was still lost. Of course, because we (DSL) are not NINA aka Koksi who say that PBs are won because of DSL, since it's wrong. All DSL does is to be fully commited to the Brits and taking partial breaks if we don't get any support. Why is that? Because for a long time we were the only British group at all that could regularly field a decent Team to defend and attack ports. Without support, you get exhausted.

Meine Güte, ich hab keine Ahnung wieso du jetzt diese Schiene fährst.
One time I wrote a report "Santiago - attacked by DSL"
http://www.burningsea.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94432
Here I ment, that we FLIPPED this port one time, cause we got no fights anywhere.
In PBs we need every player, Pingu is a good leader, and we need to cooperate with all, or we cant win anything (Cooperation is the key, I wrote this lots of time)
Here we played alltogether as a team:
http://www.burningsea.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94641

I wanted to look forward, the history is history, I HOPE we learn from it. GL in everything you do this summer.

[pro]

Originally Posted by Ronda Hogg Fail to flip 2 Ports = 2 Lost Port Battles = Missed to Flip 2 Spanish Ports = Lost 2 days = Nation went crazy. So, pretty big impact, for backstabbing your own people.

last map brit couldn't win a pb at all ... even against rats ...

[Ronda Hogg]

That's not true! There were several PB's 24 vs 24 against Rats which we won with only 3-5 casualties.